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identify this old fashioned 'lock' and order of picking

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identify this old fashioned 'lock' and order of picking

Postby suhail 123 » 24 Jan 2015 6:28

Hi guys, my first post on here!

Question 1.

I told my father my interest in lock picking (I picked my first padlock a few months ago using paper clips).
He was very supportive and said I should go ahead and get myself a lock picking set, book and practise etc. and it was a manly hobby to have.

Long story short, He showed me a lock from pakistan which he said was very safe. I have only found 1 pic of it on google and need to know what type it is.

https://reemasidz.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/dsc04554.jpg


Question 2.

Is there a general order for me to lock pick? I understand the different types of locks, but I really want to practise mortice locks (3+5 lever). Should start of there or should I work first on cylyndrical/wafer locks first?

Thanks

EDIT: Changed img to url. Please either resize your pictures or use a link if the picture is large. Thank you - GWiens2001
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Re: identify this old fashioned 'lock' and order of picking

Postby cj101 » 24 Jan 2015 7:54

On your image, there seems to be no lock at all. Only a door with a chain. Or do I miss something.

To your second question: lever locks and cylinder locks are two completely different kind of locks. I would recommend cylinder pin locks, however, as you will find probably much more locks at shops, internet auctions , ... You have a much greater diversity. There are more low quality and easy locks around you can start with. Furthermore the required tools are cheaper, more available and easier to use.
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Re: identify this old fashioned 'lock' and order of picking

Postby suhail 123 » 24 Jan 2015 8:26

Essentially, it is a chain door which locks 2 doors together. I am not sure how it works, or what it is even called.

I am in the UK, so Mortice locks will be important to learn, but I agree with your reccomendations.

Thanks,

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Re: identify this old fashioned 'lock' and order of picking

Postby nite0wl » 25 Jan 2015 2:54

suhail 123 wrote:Essentially, it is a chain door which locks 2 doors together. I am not sure how it works, or what it is even called.

I am in the UK, so Mortice locks will be important to learn, but I agree with your reccomendations.

Thanks,

Suhail


Mortice really just refers to a lock that mounts 'inside' of the door as opposed to a 'rim' lock which mounts onto one side or face of the door. With a few exceptions most types of latch mechanism and most lock mechanisms can be found in both mortice and rim mount versions.
In no particular order, the lock mechanisms that are still in some use today are: Warded, Lever, Wafer, and Pin-tumbler. Wafer and pin-tumbler locks are the most common in modern production and can be picked with largely the same tools. Warded locks are common in either very old installations (generally 100 years old or more) or on very low security or cheap padlocks, storage boxes and cabinets; these usually cannot be picked with the same tools that you would use in pin-tumbler or wafer locks but the tools for them are quite simple and can be made out of metal stock with some basic hand tools. Lever locks are not common in newer installations outside of the UK (as far as I know), they require specialized tools and use some different techniques than other modern locks.

Most common pick-sets are geared towards pin-tumbler and wafer locks. Warded 'picks' (which are essentially skeleton keys) are available from many manufacturers and are usually quite small and cheap to acquire. Tools for lever locks are slightly harder to find and more expensive than pin-tumbler, wafer, and warded tools (picks for lever locks are usually multi-part mechanical devices instead of just shaped pieces of metal) but many locksport-friendly retailers (particularly those catering to the UK market) sell them.
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