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what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

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what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby victorylocksmith » 10 Feb 2015 17:05

i called up an old client to try to drum up business and my endless delight (sarcasm) she apparently needs keys/locks for 10 lockers/cabinets! her business is easily 25 miles away so i got her to send me some pictures before i go off prancing. if anyone can advise me on what the hell do do for these locks, it would be much appreciated.

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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby billdeserthills » 10 Feb 2015 18:05

The file cabinet locks just push in to lock, I don't bother to rekey these, I just replace them. You can rekey them if you like prolly need a 1041JA? keyblank
the double D cutout needs a cam lock, that one with the key in it is made by ESP, but I usually stock National, so I would either rekey the old one or replace it
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby victorylocksmith » 10 Feb 2015 18:18

what kind of lock do i need to get to replace the locker locks? im not talking about the crappy generic cabinet lock
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby victorylocksmith » 10 Feb 2015 18:28

victorylocksmith wrote:what kind of lock do i need to get to replace the locker locks? im not talking about the crappy generic cabinet lock


also too, what kind of pins/wafers do i need to use in order to rekey these bastards? i dont have a machine to cut these keys so i guess i might have to do some filling especially considering that the lady wants to have different keys for the locks and im pretty sure they dont have 10 different key default combinations for the 10 cabinet locks she won at an auction which by the way, none have keys too.
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby 2octops » 10 Feb 2015 23:52

I've never known a locksmith that didn't have a code machine.
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby billdeserthills » 11 Feb 2015 0:35

victorylocksmith wrote:
victorylocksmith wrote:what kind of lock do i need to get to replace the locker locks? im not talking about the crappy generic cabinet lock


also too, what kind of pins/wafers do i need to use in order to rekey these bastards? i dont have a machine to cut these keys so i guess i might have to do some filling especially considering that the lady wants to have different keys for the locks and im pretty sure they dont have 10 different key default combinations for the 10 cabinet locks she won at an auction which by the way, none have keys too.



Sweet thing about doing this type of work, you can make a set of depth keys, or you can hand file a working key and copy it. Just switch around the wafer tumblers and if you don't have any more you'll hafta just work with what you do have. I charge $35 to impression a key, you'll be able to make a mint!
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby billdeserthills » 11 Feb 2015 0:37

victorylocksmith wrote:what kind of lock do i need to get to replace the locker locks? im not talking about the crappy generic cabinet lock


Why replace them? I'm sure nobody will be coming into her home to steal from these lockers & you can always scramble the wafers around if she wants a dif key
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby victorylocksmith » 11 Feb 2015 2:13

alright my plan is going to be, show up and grab the locks then find the right key blanks that fit these guys and file them down and adjust the wafers to new cominations and file some more.
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby victorylocksmith » 11 Feb 2015 2:15

2octops wrote:I've never known a locksmith that didn't have a code machine.


i have pak a punches but no true all purpose code machine like a blitz and while i can afford a blitz/true code machine it just doenst make sense financially at this point. i would rather spend that money on seminars, safe tech equipment, schlage primus registration, and/or access control inventory.
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby billdeserthills » 11 Feb 2015 11:58

2octops wrote:I've never known a locksmith that didn't have a code machine.


I have been using depth keys in my van for over 20 years
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby victorylocksmith » 12 Feb 2015 2:40

figure ill charge her $35 x 10 add on some other charges for how many keys she needs and a $50 service fee and we will be square. sounds like money in the bank!
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby cledry » 16 Mar 2015 21:49

You guys are charging $35 to rekey a cam lock? You can buy new locks keyed alike for $5 or less each. IMHO it is not ethical to make customers pay for your lack of tools, knowledge or parts. I am frankly amazed that anyone would try to buy safe tools, get Primus certification etc. before learning about basics like cam locks. A code machine should be one of your first purchases. Space and depth keys are not very professional if you are master keying locks, it would take ages to do the job and one good masterkeying job would pay for the code machine. You can even lease to purchase.

It hurts locksmithing in the long run because the public will see our trade as a bunch of glorified handymen.
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby cledry » 16 Mar 2015 21:51

BTW the cam lock is a Wesko, not a generic lock. Cores are only a few dollars from Easy Keys and can be had KAA.
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Re: what kind of locks do these lockers/cabinet locks use?

Postby cledry » 16 Mar 2015 22:04

Does she need to rekey them or just make keys? Wesko has a code on them and it would take less than 10 minutes to look them all up and cut a pair of keys for each. The blank for the Chicago is a 1041Y, again the code is good so just make a key by code or hand file it if you feel adventuresome.
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