Question about tubular pick's diameter

[tropilha]

Hello everyone.

I recently bought a 7 pin tubular pick 7.5 and when I got it I found out it doesn't fit my safe (which I lost my keys, that's why I bought the pick). My question is: what's the difference between a 7 pin 7.8 and an 8 pick?

I'm thinking on getting an 8 pin, but I don't know the diameter of both.

Can you help me with this?

Best regards!

[billdeserthills]

Some companies purposely have their lock made to a size for which no pick exists
I recently opened a tubular lock on a safe that none of my tubular picks fit. There are some good ideas for picking these locks without
those picks though on the forum

[tropilha]

Can you post the link here? The lock is little bigger than the 7.5, so i assume it is a 7.8 lock.

Best regards!

[GWiens2001]

Can you post the link here? The lock is little bigger than the 7.5, so i assume it is a 7.8 lock.

Best regards!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Tubular+Lock+Picks

Gordon

[tropilha]

Well, I'm not here joking with anyone, so why are you being an ass?

[GWiens2001]

I am merely letting you know that you can find the answer of where to get one very quickly using Google. Not trying to be an ass. Trying to help you find what you are after.

Therefore, while we are willing to help, you may find the tools you need faster using Google. And the link was meant to be informative and humorous. Sorry if it was taken in a way not intended. Should have added a smile after the link so the humorous aspect would not be lost.

Personally, when picking a tubular lock, I use manual tools rather than a tubular lock pick. Then the diameter of the tubular lock does not matter. On some locks, a dedicated tubular lock pick works wonders. On others, they don't work at all. With a manual tubular lock tensioner, a straight pick and enough practice, there are very few tubular locks that you won't be able to pick. And you won't spend a fortune on specially sized dedicated tubular lock picks for each size diameter key, four pin, six pin, 7 pin, 8 pin, 10 pin and 12 pin locks. And don't forget center, left offset and right offset possibilities for each of the above sizes and pin numbers.

Without seeing the actual lock, and without a method of measuring the diameter of the lock keyway, how can we be sure we are recommending the correct tool? If we recommend a tool with a pin configuration and diameter, and you spend your hard-earned money to get it, and it is not the correct one, you would likely blame us for your wasted money.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

Well, I'm not here joking with anyone, so why are you being an ass?

Hey a newby after my own heart!

[tropilha]

GWiens2001,

What I need to know is if the 8 pin pick will fit a 7.8 lock. Just that

Btw, can you tell me which picks do you use to open tubular locks, then?

Best regards!

[billdeserthills]

GWiens2001,

What I need to know is if the 8 pin pick will fit a 7.8 lock. Just that

Btw, can you tell me which picks do you use to open tubular locks, then?

Best regards!

The 8 pin pick is for picking locks of the same diameter but with 8 pins, or 7 pin left or 7 pin right.

[tropilha]

Ok, so the 8 pin one should work on the 7.8mmm right?

[GWiens2001]

The diameter of the key and the number of pins are not the same. Have an 8mm tubular lock with 8 pins, another 8mm lock with 12 pins, and used to have another 8mm tubular lock with only 4 pins. Also have two other sizes of tubular locks with four pins each.

So, unfortunately, can't simply say "an 8 pin tubular lock is X.Xmm size.

As for my favorite tubular lock picks, will show a picture, but not how they are used. That is not to snub you, but because forum rules dictate that tubular locks are restricted due to how many are used to secure products or money in vending machines.



Gordon

[blue60]

Well, I'm not here joking with anyone, so why are you being an ass?

I kinda want to say something here, and I don't care who I piss off....

You just join here, you have posted 5 post's all about 1 lock you want open... people are trying to help and and maybe teach you something and that is you're response?
What makes you such a special snowflake
I know I am breaking site rules with this post but ATM I just don't care.
Oh here are the rules for the forum http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10528, read the section on Site Use and Etiquette...

GWiens2001 is a very nice guy and is a super mod Just like all the guys who run this place.. (they don't get payed for all the work they do, but should) if I was him I would have not bothered to help after this comment.

[/rant]

[tropilha]

GWiens2001: Thank you very much for the info!

blue60: I asked a question, G answered that way, I read it in a different way than how he wrote it. G explained himself (you're right, he didn't certenly have to) and everythings fine. If he saw or thought I was being an idiot for no reason, he could have kicked/banned me.

Best regards!

[mahughes]

If anybody still cares, there are three common tubular lock key sizes in the USA:

Standard - Key Barrel OD 9.5 mm ID 7.8 (Aprox) 137B key blank

Small - Key Barrel OD 9.2 mm ID 7.5 mm (Aprox) 137SB key blank

Oversize - Key Barrel 10.2 mm ID 8.4 mm (Aprox) 137A key blank

All dimensions are approximate and will vary a few or maybe more than a few 100ths of a mm between manufacturers.

The most common is the Standard which can be 7 pin, 7 pin offset L or R or 8 pin and probably some other variations along with features like dead pins etc.

The Oversize is usually 10 or 11 pin UL listed pin within a pin locks.

The small is seen every now and then.

For whatever reason the Asians use the approximate Lock post / inner diameter of the key barrel to size their equipment. I have no idea what the 7.0 they sell fits or if they sell something for the 8.4. If yours is 7 or 8 pin and the 7.5 is only a little too small then it's probably 7.8. 8 pin picks work for 7 pin offset L or R as well.