What did you pick today?

[Fagin von Lipwig]

I'm wrestling with an abus dimple pin lock with some crazy warding. Not much hope cracking it with a half diamond, I need to look into different picks.

[nite0wl]

Good advice I will try a different wrench placement on the next one and see how I go. If you can help me SPP my stupid abus 83/50 I'll be even more grateful! It feels crunchy like it has serrated pins in it, but I can't get any feel from it like I do on the 65. I can't even detect a false set let alone any counter rotation. It's driving me nuts that lock.

Abus does not usually use serrated pins and they are usually pretty good about clean assembly. It sounds like you have fallen foul of their attempts to push the limits of MACS and have the widest possible variation between pins, this often leads you to over set one or two pins which will definitely stop you from getting a false set.

[Mitchell S]

Good advice I will try a different wrench placement on the next one and see how I go. If you can help me SPP my stupid abus 83/50 I'll be even more grateful! It feels crunchy like it has serrated pins in it, but I can't get any feel from it like I do on the 65. I can't even detect a false set let alone any counter rotation. It's driving me nuts that lock.

Abus does not usually use serrated pins and they are usually pretty good about clean assembly. It sounds like you have fallen foul of their attempts to push the limits of MACS and have the widest possible variation between pins, this often leads you to over set one or two pins which will definitely stop you from getting a false set.

Interesting. What's MACS though?

[GWiens2001]

Maximum Adjacent Cut Specification - the widest allowable variation between the highest and lowest cuts side by side on a key. Exceed MACS, and you can have problems with operation of the key in the lock.

Gordon

[Comrade627]

Maximum Adjacent Cut Specification - the widest allowable variation between the highest and lowest cuts side by side on a key. Exceed MACS, and you can have problems with operation of the key in the lock.

Gordon

I figured that was a thing, just didn't know it had a name and all. Learn something new every day.

[MBI]

I picked a wafer lock with a bobby pin. I'm looking into a pick set and I think the [redacted] diamond 14 piece set is good for me. I also want a practice lock. [redacted] is a trustable site cause I bought my bump keys there about a month ago

[Pahaseta]

Atlast I got a abus 165/40 open. Been strugling with it for ages. Had to use a modified feeler gauge.

[MBI]

I picked a wafer lock with a bobby pin. I'm looking into a pick set and I think the [redacted] black diamond 14 piece set is good for me. I also want a practice lock. [redacted] is a trustable site cause I bought my bump keys there about a month ago

I've found them to be less than ideal when it comes to replying to communications.
It's interesting that your first post is to promote a commercial site.

[Kheops]

Finally managed to unlock my antique 6-lever pancake lock. Been trying different techniques for quite some time... A pretty good lock, considering it's quite possibly close to 100 years old!

[billdeserthills]

Finally managed to unlock my antique 6-lever pancake lock. Been trying different techniques for quite some time... A pretty good lock, considering it's quite possibly close to 100 years old!

Once it's open, You can measure the tumbler lengths & make a key

[Kheops]

Already shopping around for a perfect size piece of stainless steel to cut myself a key!

[Divinorum]

Finally managed to unlock my antique 6-lever pancake lock. Been trying different techniques for quite some time... A pretty good lock, considering it's quite possibly close to 100 years old!

Is that the Champion 6 lever pancake lock? I have one of these and I gave up on it because nothing was working. Some people said that if you tension the shackle then you can pick the levers one by one and they will stay in place. For some reason this technique doesn't work on my lock. Others reported the same issue. I know there is a way to somehow impression it with a push key that has movable wires :/

[Kheops]

It's the same as a Champion. Champion was made by the Miller Lock company. Mine is branded "Empire", but is exactly the same. I tried picking it in the manner you are referring to, but had no success. I don't think I'm aloud to explain how I went about it, on this forum, because it involves decoding. I'll PM you.

[nick08037]

OK a minor victory on security pins, opened this American 1105 twice, with such mild bitting I had to work way too hard for it. -Nick

a quick pass with the rake for a false set, the long reach to overcome the spools (used this light weight tool to force me to go easy) and then a light touch up with the diamond to complete the job

[Squelchtone]

OK a minor victory on security pins, opened this American 1105 twice, with such mild bitting I had to work way too hard for it. -Nick

a quick pass with the rake for a false set, the long reach to overcome the spools (used this light weight tool to force me to go easy) and then a light touch up with the diamond to complete the job

Nice job and nice photo. I like the new green handles on those Petersons. Those locks are always a job because they are so light and you can hold them for hours, which is how long it usually takes me to pick an American.

Squelchtone