Advice for picking a Master 6270/970

[mmurczek]

Hello everyone! I am new to the hobby and art of lock picking and I would greatly appreciate any tips that can be provided. I purchased a lock for $3 off of kijiji that the owner had lost the key for. However I may have purchased a lock too difficult for my skill set. I have had luck picking 5 pin locks but this is a six pin I believe. The lock when I purchased it appeared quite dirty and not well maintained. I cleaned it as best I could and lubricated with some dry graphite. Any advice would be greatly appreciated from some of the more senior lock pickers. Thank you!
-mmurczek

[Squelchtone]

Since this is your first post and you are asking about a very specific lock that is usually used on work van doors (it is hockey puck padlock for those not in the know) we ask that you please post a photo of the actual lock so we know it isn't attached to anything.

To post a photo on the forum, upload it first to a photo hosting site such as http://imgur.com , http://tinypic.com , etc, and Copy/Paste the URL address into your reply here.

Thank you,
Squelchtone

[mmurczek]

Hello Squelchtone,
That is a reasonable request and I hope this image works! http://mmurc.imgur.com/all/

[Squelchtone]

Hello Squelchtone,
That is a reasonable request and I hope this image works! http://mmurc.imgur.com/all/

wooops.. that folder is not public click the image you want to share and on the right side of it is a bunch of links, the Direct Link will work here

the link should look like this http://i.imgur.com/CX5H9VY.jpg

[mmurczek]

Ha I should know how to work the internet by now... quite embarrassing. anyways http://i.imgur.com/Bn5MDU4.jpg?1

[Squelchtone]

Ha I should know how to work the internet by now... quite embarrassing. anyways http://i.imgur.com/Bn5MDU4.jpg?1

ahh see that picture clears it all up.. Lloyd sold you a nice lock

That lock has at least 1 security pin called a spool pin, are you familiar with picking those? When picking it, does the cylinder move a little and then stops around 1 o'clock?

Thanks
Squelchtone

[mmurczek]

Yes! and it gives me an ounce of hope every time, but I am not familiar with spools.

[Squelchtone]

This is a nice video I like to use for demonstrating how spools work



With that master, after you picked it to a false set, which means the spool pin has gotten hung up and the plug moved just a little, then go in with a hook pick keep medium to hard tension on the lock, go under each pin, find the ones that seem really hard to push up but are still stuck hanging low in the keyway, put medium pressure on the wrench and rock the pick to lift that stuck pin, you'll see and feel the plug counter rotating and the wrench pushing back. Let it do that until the spool pin overcomes the lip that it is stuck on and then the plug will turn the correct way and should pop the lock open.

Squelchtone

There are some videos on youtube for this lock as well

[mmurczek]

Thank you for all your help! Armed with this new knowledge im going to give it another go! thanks

[mmurczek]

I opened it! and I now have it disassembled revealing 5 spool pins and one standard pin. No wonder that was so difficult...

[Squelchtone]

I opened it! and I now have it disassembled revealing 5 spool pins and one standard pin. No wonder that was so difficult...

hey congrats! 5 spools?! Master Lock must be reading lp101 and taking notes during their lunch breaks

Squelchtone

[nick08037]

I opened it! and I now have it disassembled revealing 5 spool pins and one standard pin. No wonder that was so difficult...

Good job picking the lock with 5 spools and for opening it up to learn more about how it works - that is what helps expand your skill and knowledge -Nick

[nickmannnxx]

Thats an awesome buy for $3, and congrats on picking it!

[mmurczek]

Thanks everyone! would it be helpful to post what the internals look like? I'm just in the middle of exams but id be glad to post after, now that i know how to use imugr..(Thanks Squelchtone).