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Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

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Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby cheerIO » 1 Mar 2015 22:46

Hello all, this is a disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3. NAPEC stands for Naval Ammunition Production Engineering Center. Here is an interesting techdata sheet that sums up the lock:

http://www.antique-padlocks.com/shared/napec_dcp_1381_01.pdf

Onward to the lock. It is a heavy chunk of stainless about 3 pounds 5 ounces. It's about 2.5 inches wide, 1.5 inches deep, and 3.75 inches tall. The shackle is 0.5 inches think.

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This is bicentric lock, having two keyways. And it is dual custody, meaning that you have to have two keys to open it. Two different keys both at the same time have to be inserted and turned for it to open. One key alone will not open this lock.

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Following the techdata sheet's instructions, the first thing I do is knock the retaining roll pin out with a 3/32'nds inch punch. No need to punch it all the way out. Just enough so that the top plate is clear to slide.

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Next you have to unlock both the cores to release the shackle. This will allow the top plate to slide when the shackle is lifted all the way up to clear the bottom case.

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The two halves of the lock slide together in a very nice dove-tail arrangement.

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Here is the top removed and the shackle dropped back down to where it would be in the locking position. You can see there is a roll pin at the heel of the shackle so it won't come out of the top plate.

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Next, looking down into the body of the lock. These are the massive locking bars. They are in the locked position.

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Here you can see I unlocked the left locking bar. This lock requires two keys to open, if you only undo one of the cylinders the other other bar is not letting the hasp go anywhere. Safe to say this lock is a bit un-shimmable too.

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Locking bars taken out. They are really quite substantial pieces of metal.

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Empty case. Fun fact: this empty body weighs exactly the same as the topslide, hasp, cylinders, and locking bars all added together.

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Top slide turned upside down. Locking bars in the locked position.

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And the unlocked position.

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Well, I think that's it. Pretty simple on the inside but it really gets the job done. This lock is fairly rare and I feel very very fortunate to have it in my collection. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Mar 2015 22:50

Oh, man. That is some great lock pron!

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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby Squelchtone » 2 Mar 2015 1:12

That's it.. I'm done.. where do I send my cash, cuz.. I need this lock..

that split in half action is totally visible in how the 833 breaks down... oh man.. you have no idea.. so cool.. yeah I'm out.. gonna go get drunk to forget the pain that I dont own this lock. yet..
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby Robotnik » 2 Mar 2015 1:42

Amazing lock and great teardown. Such a beautifully simple mechanism...robust, to say the least :D .
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 Mar 2015 7:36

And this thread has now become a 'sticky'. :mrgreen:

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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby MrAnybody » 2 Mar 2015 7:50

Oh my, oh my. I'm nearly speechless. This is far, far way above cool. I've not seen this lock before.

I. Need. This. Lock.

Huge thanks for sharing this. Hate you.
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby nick08037 » 2 Mar 2015 11:31

Elegantly simple but incredibility robust design, it looks like it was solely a US Navy built item, any idea if this has a patent history? Has anyone seen any commercial variants?

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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby cheerIO » 2 Mar 2015 16:38

Ha Ha!!! Thanks guys.

And I got a stickie!!! Yay.. :D :D :D

Yes Nick, this seems to be a Navy only lock. If you look the front stamping:

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TP: I don't know the significance of this yet
NAPEC: Naval Ammunition Production Engineering Center (also the hasp it is designed for)
NCEL: Naval Civil Engineering Laboratory
U.S.N.: United States Navy
1381: model of the lock
1982: year of manufacture?

I couldn't really find any other information about this lock except that techdata sheet that Squelchtone pointed out. He may know a bit more as I know he is kind of the resident expert on military locks and has written about them in the past. All I can find is that one sold on on Ebay in 2003 but that's about it. If you come across any more info about this lock please post it here.
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Mar 2015 14:35

an lp101 post from 2010 with another version of this lock: http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=48706#p368145

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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby billdeserthills » 9 Mar 2015 21:20

A true Dual-Custody lock, very cool!
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby cheerIO » 10 Mar 2015 18:04

I called Lockmaster's Security Institute since Squelchtone said there was an example of this lock in the Museum there.

I was able to speak to a representative that did tech support for DOD and the Military.

Pretty awesome job from the sound of it. :D They get calls from the Military over seas that say, "Hey we just took this palace and found this safe and these locks. How do we get into them?"

Any way, they confirmed that this is a very rare lock only supplied the Navy for a short amount of time. The reason for it being dual custody was that it's purpose was to secure containers holding nuclear weapons.

They also said that it is the last, possibly only, dual custody lock issued in the Navy. It sounded like now they are using S&G 951's mostly.

No info on the manufacturer because this was probably bid out on the NAVSEA system and bid on to be made exclusively for the US Navy. So there would be no need to mark anything on it as no one was supposed to ever see it anyway.

They told me this was a very rare lock that should not have made it's way into the public hands and that it should have been destroyed. But they also said there is not really a concern and I don't have to worry about a knock on the door because they are technically retired and none are supposed to be in use now. Whewww..
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby MacGnG1 » 10 Mar 2015 18:32

aww man those pix are awesome!

/me wants it so badly! :D

thanks for the pix!
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby Sanji Himura » 28 Mar 2015 19:47

cheerIO wrote:I called Lockmaster's Security Institute since Squelchtone said there was an example of this lock in the Museum there.

I was able to speak to a representative that did tech support for DOD and the Military.

Pretty awesome job from the sound of it. :D They get calls from the Military over seas that say, "Hey we just took this palace and found this safe and these locks. How do we get into them?"

Any way, they confirmed that this is a very rare lock only supplied the Navy for a short amount of time. The reason for it being dual custody was that it's purpose was to secure containers holding nuclear weapons.

They also said that it is the last, possibly only, dual custody lock issued in the Navy. It sounded like now they are using S&G 951's mostly.

No info on the manufacturer because this was probably bid out on the NAVSEA system and bid on to be made exclusively for the US Navy. So there would be no need to mark anything on it as no one was supposed to ever see it anyway.

They told me this was a very rare lock that should not have made it's way into the public hands and that it should have been destroyed. But they also said there is not really a concern and I don't have to worry about a knock on the door because they are technically retired and none are supposed to be in use now. Whewww..


So, let me throw this question out there, did the expert at all mentioned what is stopping the technology from reaching mass production? I could see ABUS or some of the higher ended lock manufacturers trying to replicate the technology if that wasn't the case.
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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby Squelchtone » 28 Mar 2015 20:06

Sanji Himura wrote:
cheerIO wrote:I called Lockmaster's Security Institute since Squelchtone said there was an example of this lock in the Museum there.

I was able to speak to a representative that did tech support for DOD and the Military.

Pretty awesome job from the sound of it. :D They get calls from the Military over seas that say, "Hey we just took this palace and found this safe and these locks. How do we get into them?"

Any way, they confirmed that this is a very rare lock only supplied the Navy for a short amount of time. The reason for it being dual custody was that it's purpose was to secure containers holding nuclear weapons.

They also said that it is the last, possibly only, dual custody lock issued in the Navy. It sounded like now they are using S&G 951's mostly.

No info on the manufacturer because this was probably bid out on the NAVSEA system and bid on to be made exclusively for the US Navy. So there would be no need to mark anything on it as no one was supposed to ever see it anyway.

They told me this was a very rare lock that should not have made it's way into the public hands and that it should have been destroyed. But they also said there is not really a concern and I don't have to worry about a knock on the door because they are technically retired and none are supposed to be in use now. Whewww..


So, let me throw this question out there, did the expert at all mentioned what is stopping the technology from reaching mass production? I could see ABUS or some of the higher ended lock manufacturers trying to replicate the technology if that wasn't the case.


Why would it even be on anyone's plate for such a lock to reach mass production? Nothing short of nuclear weapons needs two human beings to unlock it at the same time. Bank vaults don't use padlocks, so that's not viable. It was a one off special project. Most commercially made padlocks offer the illusion of security, and the actually well made padlocks just extend the time it takes to get through their shackles, bodies, or lock cylinders.

There has to be a demand for the supply to be introduced, and the price has to be low enough for someone to want to actually spend $200-$1000 on such a padlock. I'm not sure I can think of a current need that fits this.

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Re: Disassembly of a NAPEC (DCP) Model 1381 style 3

Postby nick08037 » 28 Mar 2015 20:32

Even if you could imagine a need, from a commercial standpoint it might be more practical to design the hasp to accept 2 locks. -Nick
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