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My DIY Recovering a S&G 8500 Series Lock Combonation

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My DIY Recovering a S&G 8500 Series Lock Combonation

Postby BSG_314159 » 19 Apr 2015 20:54

So I just got my hands on a Sergeant and Greenleaf 8500 Series MP Safe Lock. So I installed it on some hardwood so i could attempt to find out the combo!

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Below is a link to the manual if you do not know how to use this safe lock.
References: http://www.sargentandgreenleaf.com/pdf/ ... ins_op.pdf

(Here it is all apart)
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(FRONT)
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(BACK)
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So I was going to do a whole write up on how I found out the combo but it seems like that has been done quite a number of times on LP101. Also I am a very new hobbyist in the locksmith field so it would not be as detailed. I will post some pictures and give a quick guide on how I did it.

So I removed the back cover.
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Now this is my approach at acquiring the combination. I turned the dial till the first combo disk plate turned. I choose one position to line all the disks up that I could easily see. (This will not be the correct combination but it will be the correct pattern to finding the combination) I did this because of the accelerator spring being in the way of the correct location.

Here is the first disc lined up (65)
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Here is the second disc lined up (47)
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Here is the third disc lined up (67)
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So now that I had some number now its time to adjust this set of numbers so that it opens this safe.

So I lined up the THIRD disc so I got the real 3rd combination number. (41)
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Now its time for some math. I took my 3rd combination number and subtracted the real 3rd combination. (66-41= 26)

So my combination set was 56-47-67
subtract 26 from those numbers to equal
Real combination set is 30-21-41

This is after dialing the 30-21-41
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Now move dial to 0 and press in. IT WORKS!!!
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So this is my quick how too guide. It is a method that worked for me but may not work for others. I hope this helps anyone out there with a safe with a unknown combination.
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Re: My DIY Recovering a S&G 8500 Series Lock Combonation

Postby GWiens2001 » 19 Apr 2015 21:13

Great guide. This should prove helpful for those looking to find the combination with the safe door open. :D

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Re: My DIY Recovering a S&G 8500 Series Lock Combonation

Postby BSG_314159 » 19 Apr 2015 21:52

GWiens2001 wrote:Great guide. This should prove helpful for those looking to find the combination with the safe door open. :D

Gordon


:D

So my friend is giving me a safe that is closed and no combination. It is a 8500 MP just like this one I have. So now to find a way to get the combination with out cheating.
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Re: My DIY Recovering a S&G 8500 Series Lock Combonation

Postby bitbuster » 20 Apr 2015 11:18

what you did to find the combo is called 'transferring'. line up all the wheel gates in 1 area and then either subtract your add to the drop-in point to get actual combo.
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Re: My DIY Recovering a S&G 8500 Series Lock Combonation

Postby BSG_314159 » 20 Apr 2015 20:31

bitbuster wrote:what you did to find the combo is called 'transferring'. line up all the wheel gates in 1 area and then either subtract your add to the drop-in point to get actual combo.



Thanks!! I did not know this was a method already. It just made sense in my head. :D
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