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Licensing Frustrations

Wondering which locksmith course to take? Looking for locksmith license info for your locale? This is the forum for you.

Re: Licensing Frustrations

Postby alockguru » 2 Jun 2014 8:53

Luckily licensing here in VA is pretty simple. We have a separate entity (I guess you would call it) that handles it along with a few other similar fields.
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Re: Licensing Frustrations

Postby tomcat » 3 Mar 2015 22:18

Div, I apologize for not reaching out to you earlier. I just found this thread. NY is a very lucky state since locksmith licensing is NOT welcome because it has been proven to be an epic failure elsewhere. The state assembly agreed twice when they shut down the underhanded attempts to push it through. In certain counties you would find that the locksmith falls under "home improvement contractor" if and only if you are doing residential services. If your not doing residential you only need a business license and a tax certificate. If you are doing just commercial and automotive, you are NOT required to have the home improvement license. The Society of Professional Locksmiths operates from NY & CA. Hopefully this has helped you.
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Re: Licensing Frustrations

Postby nite0wl » 3 May 2015 13:57

If only NYC were as reasonable. In NYC it is possible to get a locksmith license, if you have a ton of spare cash and are already very good friends with several licensed locksmiths.
Most of the licensing procedure is pretty standard for any license from the city (background check, fingerprinting, etc, with generally less than $200 in costs and fees), the big roadblock is the unusual addition of a special 'professional qualification' which requires that you fulfill it in one of three ways:
1. Membership in a specific local union (which hasn't existed for over a decade according to a former member I tracked down)
2. A certificate of completion from a NYC-DCA (Department of Consumer Affairs) accredited training program
3. At least two letters of support from two locksmiths with current NYC locksmith licenses

Number 3 is difficult because most locksmiths in the area are not eager to see any competition and tend to run small shops with few employees (and most of whom seem to be related in the cases where I have enquired). I understand not wanting to see a new competitor since they are already undercut on hardware sales and key duplication by hardware stores and on installations by the supers, managers, and handy-men of the large residential and commercial buildings which make up most of the local market.

So number 2 should be pretty simple right? Go to any of the very affordable training programs run by local trade schools, the city university system, or maybe one or two of the large national correspondence courses, right? Wrong. According to the DCA there is one, and only one, accepted training course and it costs around three times as much as most of the other training programs.
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Re: Licensing Frustrations

Postby MatrixBlackRock » 3 May 2015 17:18

nite0wl wrote:If only NYC were as reasonable. In NYC it is possible to get a locksmith license, if you have a ton of spare cash and are already very good friends with several licensed locksmiths.

1. Membership in a specific local union (which hasn't existed for over a decade according to a former member I tracked down)


Na it is still alive and well.

http://www.dc37.net/about/locals/local1087.html

Wayne
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Re: Licensing Frustrations

Postby nite0wl » 5 May 2015 10:20

MatrixBlackRock wrote:Na it is still alive and well.

http://www.dc37.net/about/locals/local1087.html

Wayne

Wrong union. According to http://www.nyc.gov/html/dca/html/licenses/062.shtml a letter from Local 74 of the SEIU, which no longer exists (SEIU doesn't list it, nor are there any listings which show it as active).
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