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Sargent Mortise Cylinder with Hotel Function

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Sargent Mortise Cylinder with Hotel Function

Postby VancouverSpecial71 » 28 May 2015 18:59

I found some of these old Sargent cylinders at a scrap metal dealer last year. Once I gutted them I discovered an extra ring around the rear of the plug, something akin to a truncated version of a master ring but only allowing different pinning on pin 6.

It turns out this ring piece provides the 'hotel function' found on many hotel room doors (non electric with standard keys). It's a simple yet elegant solution.

From the Sargent 'Cylinders and Components' Catalog here's a description:

Hotel Type Cylinder
• Guest and Master keys will only retract the latch bolt but not project or retract the dead bolt
• Emergency keys retract the latchbolt and deadbolt and can also project the deadbolt


Basically, when you're inside the room and lock the deadbolt all guest keys and maid (master) keys cannot open the door (retract the deadbolt). However, emergency keys will throw/retract the deadbolt as well as open the latch bolt.

The ring piece accomplishes this by limiting the travel of the plug for guest/maid keys so only the latchbolt is engaged. Emergency keys can turn the plug all the way around, thus engaging the deadbolt.

Here's some pictures:

Sargent Mortise Cylinders x2 - Each with own key - KD
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Rear of cylinder and tailpiece.
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Tailpiece removed - ring piece now visible surrounding plug.
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Front view with ring piece in-place. See 5 round pin chambers and 1 square slot in ring piece for 6th pin.
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View inside the cylinder from back with plug removed. Ring piece still in-place.
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Ring piece
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Rear of cylinder - ring piece removed.
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Dissassembled. Gotta love the bittings you can find on Sargent :)
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Pins - master pins found on all except chamber 6.
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Keys x2 - each KD.
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Kind regards,
Sean

Note:
I originally posted this a few months ago but due to a LP101.com database error the post was lost. At that time I received some excellent responses that informed me of the hotel function aspect of the ring piece, however I can't remember from whom to give proper credit. Anyway, thanks to those helpful lp101 members last time around. :)
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Re: Sargent Mortise Cylinder with Hotel Function

Postby cledry » 28 May 2015 20:26

I think I remember telling you it was for the hotel function. No credit needed, I just recalled the thread. It is a very interesting cylinder.
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Re: Sargent Mortise Cylinder with Hotel Function

Postby VancouverSpecial71 » 28 May 2015 23:34

cledry wrote:I think I remember telling you it was for the hotel function. No credit needed, I just recalled the thread. It is a very interesting cylinder.


Hi Jim,

It was you - thanks again for the help.
I was thinking your forum name was 'Cedry' but didn't think I had it quite right - only off by one letter though :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Sean
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Re: Sargent Mortise Cylinder with Hotel Function

Postby dll932 » 29 May 2015 10:00

Nice! Never saw these before.
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Re: Sargent Mortise Cylinder with Hotel Function

Postby VancouverSpecial71 » 29 May 2015 15:57

dll932 wrote:Nice! Never saw these before.



Glad you like it :)
It sure surprised me when I first gutted it.
Really is a simple but robust solution to having an emergency key with full access.

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