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Micrometric parts

Got a question about key machines? not sure what to buy? need a user manual? have some tips for keeping one running well or need help cutting or programming keys? Post here!

Micrometric parts

Postby jimu57 » 13 Jul 2015 15:55

I searched this section on key machines but didnt see what I was looking for.

I have a Micrometric key cutter. I need to get a cutter for it. I have looked but am a little confused with all the cutters available. Does anyone know off the top of your head which cutters work on that little machine and the best place to get them?

Thanks so much
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 13 Jul 2015 16:03

I have one at home, if no one knows what cutter it takes then I can look at mine to see if it has any numbers on it when I get home.
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby tomasfuk » 13 Jul 2015 17:35

If nobody will know the specification, you should measure the inner/outer diameters and choose the shape according to the taster shape. As in the attached pictures (but different machine).
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Can you put a photo of your taster?
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 13 Jul 2015 19:57

Here are some pics of mine (sorry admins if they are a little large 1024X768, I was trying for as much detail as possible)

Just one side has numbers on it... at top it says 23RF and on the bottom it says 26
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It is 2.241 in diameter
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I hope this helps in some way...
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 13 Jul 2015 20:04

This one looks like a direct replacement for mine as its 2 1/4" with 1/2" drive (mine too) and cuts in the same direction as well as looks just like it.

Yours may be different so please match it to your copy dog..

Hope this helps
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 13 Jul 2015 20:09

pffft, I guess it helps to put the link to the eBay auction in the post... :roll:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Replac ... 3aad93442d

This one has the exact one but Im sure you dont want to pay all that money for 23 cutters just to get the one that works. It looks like it is made by Ilco and it is the 23RF #26


Here is a link to a new one...
http://mysecuritypro.com/23RFKeyMachine ... Wheel.aspx


I hope this helps
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby jimu57 » 14 Jul 2015 12:20

My cutter is an Ilco 23RF. Just like the one in the pic. The follower or dog has a sharper point. I would like to get a cutter that matches it. I am still looking. I'll find it. Thanks for the input.

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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby tomasfuk » 14 Jul 2015 16:39

CU1 has the same dimensions but a sharper tip
http://mysecuritypro.com/CU1KeyMachineCuttingWheel.aspx
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby bitbuster » 14 Jul 2015 17:10

http://www.gilraytools.com
jim,go to the link.call them. mark will get what you need.
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby MatrixBlackRock » 14 Jul 2015 18:23

jimu57 wrote:My cutter is an Ilco 23RF. Just like the one in the pic. The follower or dog has a sharper point. I would like to get a cutter that matches it.
jim


http://mysecuritypro.com/23RFKeyMachine ... Wheel.aspx

HL Flake has them for $37 but will need to open an account to buy one, which if you are serious is a good idea.

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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby jimu57 » 14 Jul 2015 18:32

Just looked up the CU1 in the Ilco catalog. It does has a radius but is smaller. .015" R. Better. Thanks for pointing that out. I am not sure that any cutter have a pure sharp edge with no radius or flat.

Thanks for calling out the CU1. I had looked over it several times.

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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby tomasfuk » 15 Jul 2015 2:36

jimu57 wrote:I am not sure that any cutter have a pure sharp edge with no radius or flat.

One-sided cutters use to have tip flat or with radius. Otherwise they would not last long, the angle is too sharp (45º).
Two-sided cutters (as in my 1st post) are available with a pure sharp tip (the angle is 80º or more).
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Re: Micrometric parts

Postby jimu57 » 15 Jul 2015 6:56

I also have a Foley Belsaw key machine that has the 90 degree V cutter. I used it to cut an ASSA bump key. Have been working on it getting it zeroed. Going to sell one of the machines. Not sure which yet. I like the Foley because I can cut the ASSA with nice sharp corners and nice flats.

thanks to everyone for your input. Cleared up a lot of stuff I dont know, which is still a lot. :D

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