Jackson concealed closer

[cledry]

I have a strange issue with a Jackson concealed closer. Just installed a adjustable (blue) 105 NH closer with deep track offset arm. Within a week the spring stop in the track and been hit so hard it broke the roll pin. Installed a new track, made sure no binds, everything tight and loctited and a week later the new track is broken too. The track is positioned correctly according to Jackson.

Any thoughts or do suspect some sort of abuse?

[2octops]

Wind catching the door?

What is the doors application? Where is it located?

[cledry]

No, I don't think it is wind. It hasn't been windy lately here. It is a front door to a Nike outlet shop in a tourist area. There are two front doors and the same one has now broken three times. Comparing the two everything other than the handing is identical.

[billdeserthills]

There is a church I service that had the same type problems with the track closers. They were mounted on several classrooms and the hold-open on all were broken.
When I took a look, I found that the ball bearing which was supposed to be the actual hold-open was gone on every one. I replaced them all with lcn closers with hold-open
(and no track) and they all work great still. I never did figure out what broke the track part, but it did sour me on that style of closer.

[DOORDOCTOR]

Cledry,

some questions about your installation, the hinge type?? is this one of them piano hinges (Hager-roton geared hinge) those geared hinges and OHC closers DO NOT PLAY WELL together. and will reduce the max angle of opening, this in turn can be a cause to damaged tracks or damaged spring bump stops,

max angle of opening of this door?? what do you have the spring set to?? the range on the blue Jackson is 1-4. and just as 20ctops asked, what type of building is this door used in?? schools (K-12 and colleges) get the most closer abuse/damage,

thinking, is there a way you can have a metalworker make a heavier duty track or stronger bolts so the spring stop don't become damaged in future?? also, possible the max degree of opening for closer has reached its limit and the roller in track is near end of the track (maybe you can move track more towards hinge edge so door max opening will not destroy the spring stop).

the best way to get max degree of opening with a Jackson may be to install it as central hung (door connected directly to the shaft with a side or end load arm.

just a note, the blue Jackson is NOT ANSI grade 1, ONLY the BLACK one is (fixed size spring)

[cledry]

I found the problem. The entire header that the closer is mounted into had shifted and the closer shaft and arm were no longer parallel to the track. Had glass company correct frame and added one shim to closer now seems OK.