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by johnnie_walker » 19 Jul 2015 17:14
Hi All, I am looking for the best residential deadbolt lock for my new home. I need it to be secure but also not look heavy duty or commercial. Most importantly - it has to be bump resistant. What do you think of this: http://hotbikiniwallpapers.com/Should I go with the Kwikset Smartkey? Does anyone has experience with it? Thanks!
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Reason: EDITED the URL to something more useful than locksmith spam
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by tomasfuk » 19 Jul 2015 17:25
Veni, vidi, relinquo. Vale!
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by Squelchtone » 19 Jul 2015 18:27
I believe OP is the owner of the locksmith shop in those links, his IP comes back to Colorado where that locksmith is also from. Notice who started the thread you linked to.
shameful SEO bullsh*t tactics.
account will be banned.
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by GWiens2001 » 19 Jul 2015 19:30
I would question any locksmith who promotes Kwikset Smartkey. Most lockies I know hate them with a passion.
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by jimu57 » 19 Jul 2015 21:09
Its not only the type of keyway, but the quality of the lock. I bought some inexpensive entry levers recently. They have SC1 keyway. They look nice and seem to be decent quality. But there are better deadbolts out there that are more expensive and have the SC1 keyway. Do you put a $15 deadbolt on a door? Or do you use an $80 deadbolt? Either way a burglar most likely will break a window to get in.
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by Kheops » 20 Jul 2015 7:52
There were two big game hunters who went hunting in the African Savanna. They were camping in small tents one night when they heard lions all around them. As they stood in there camp, looking all around, trying to find a way out, one of the two started putting on running shoes.
The second hunter said to him "Why running shoes? You can't outrun a lion, even if you have running shoes.."
The first answered "They aren't meant to outrun lions..... They're to outrun YOU."
That being said, you don't need to burglar proof your house. You need to burglar proof it... more than your neighbors.
As a law enforcement officer in a large metropolitan area, I have seen hundreds and hundreds of break and enters. In over a decade I have seen 2.... yes 2, B & E's where the burglar picked the lock... and one of those was in a locker where the burglar had the whole night to work on the lock. They almost always kick/pry the door in, break a window, or force the little plastic tabs that keep windows "locked".
It is much more important to make sure your windows are protected, your door and frame are solid... than to have an impossible to pick lock.
You can invest hundreds of dollars in top-of-the-line deadbolts. But before, at the very least, invest in target-hardening for the rest (bars on back windows, wooden bars in window tracks, heavy duty latch on back door that locks into the floor.)
Don't leave anything that could indicate you have valuables in plain sight (ex: laptop on the table, in the kitchen with a back window).
And on top of that, hide your valuables in unlikely areas (ex: jewelry in freezer) and maybe even get your hands on a busted laptop or ipad... leave that lying around in plain view somewhere.. A burglar will see that and might just grab it and run...
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by MatrixBlackRock » 20 Jul 2015 10:23
jimu57 wrote:Do you put a $15 deadbolt on a door? Or do you use an $80 deadbolt? Either way a burglar most likely will break a window to get in.
I recently installed a new entrance door on my home, my wife selected a JELD-WEN 5209 which is a half and haft wood panel lower with a 9 pane upper, I discovered when pricing out the hardware I could buy an old stock new in box Best grade 1 IC leverset and an Arrow IC double deadbolt for less than the high end crap they sell at Lowes Depot. As for the glass, and since I don't use the deadbolt when I am at home, prior to staining and finishing the wood I pulled the inner trim and tinted each tempered glass pane with 15% reflective tint and then overlaid that tint with 3M Security Clear. The tint and 3M SC I got off e-Bay for just under $25 and I believe that was money well spent. The only mismatch was the leverset was 2-3/4 inch backset and the deadbolt due to a lack of clearance from the edge of the door to the lite had to be set for 2-3/8 so they are not aligned vertically, but I can live with that. Wayne
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by MatrixBlackRock » 20 Jul 2015 10:45
Kheops wrote:They almost always kick/pry the door in, break a window, or force the little plastic tabs that keep windows "locked".
A couple of years back we had a couple of yahoo's who where breaking into homes using a battery powered Sawzall, if they couldn't cut through the deadbolt and deadlatch they would just cut the door or frame out of the way. I some cases these idiots would cause more dollars in property damage then the value of the stuff they stole. Their string of burglaries came to a sudden end when the noise of their Sawzall cutting at a door woke up a homeowner, who armed with a shotgun detained them for the police. Don't leave anything that could indicate you have valuables in plain sight (ex: laptop on the table, in the kitchen with a back window).
There's a little known fact about residential burglaries and it is a large number of them are not random and are committed by someone who has already been in the target home or knows someone with a big mouth who has been in the target home. As such high value or easy to pawn items such as cash, jewelry, guns, laptops and drugs both legal and illicit are best stowed out of sight. Wayne
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by burkevalocks » 12 Aug 2015 18:30
I think the best types of locks the Medco locks. They are high security locks Medeco also provides and protect U.S. government and military with their locks. They also use them for schools and universities, hospitals and banks, vending machines and parking meters, homes and offices, and much, much more. They can not be picked or bump keyed the only way to into them if there is no key, you would need to drill them. The Smart Key is also great. But I would go with the Medco.
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by MatrixBlackRock » 12 Aug 2015 18:44
burkevalocks wrote:I think the best types of locks the Medco locks.
Nope, the best type of locks are the ones that match the threat, versus the cost, versus the application. I can with a hunk of hardwood (to thicken the door) install a grade one Medco deadbolt, on a Teds' Shed and then once locked open that door with a large screwdriver, or simply kick out a fiberglass door panel and go in. Wayne
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by Squelchtone » 12 Aug 2015 22:20
burkevalocks wrote:I think the best types of locks the Medco locks. They are high security locks Medeco also provides and protect U.S. government and military with their locks. They also use them for schools and universities, hospitals and banks, vending machines and parking meters, homes and offices, and much, much more. They can not be picked or bump keyed the only way to into them if there is no key, you would need to drill them. The Smart Key is also great. But I would go with the Medco.
why do I get the feeling you're an SEO spammer account? respond to this and convince me you're not,. by the way, it is Medeco not Medco, it's not a medical company, its MEchanical DEvelopment COmpany. ME DE CO. drives me up a wall when people say Medco. Its like parents who in the 80's and 90's would say Nitendo instead of NINtendo Squelchtone
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by MatrixBlackRock » 13 Aug 2015 5:59
Squelchtone wrote:burkevalocks wrote:by the way, it is Medeco not Medco, it's not a medical company, its MEchanical DEvelopment COmpany. ME DE CO.
drives me up a wall when people say Medco. Squelchtone
Oops, I'll remember to trap that error in the future.  Interesting name though, it's like Ademco which prior to being acquired by Honeywell was ADEMCO, Alarm DEevice Manufacturing COompany. Wayne
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by Squelchtone » 14 Aug 2015 23:52
well that whole medeco cannot be picked sales sounding post up above here really sounded spammy, if they're a real person, they're in for a treat when we show them all the Medeco locks we pick before 9am each day. Squelchtone
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by GWiens2001 » 15 Aug 2015 0:02
Squelchtone wrote:well that whole medeco cannot be picked sales sounding post up above here really sounded spammy, if they're a real person, they're in for a treat when we show them all the Medeco locks we pick before 9am each day. Squelchtone
 Love it when someone says that a mechanical key operated lock is unpickable. There is always going to be someone somewhere who knows how to pick - or bypass - the lock or mechanism. Gordon
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