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Mottura Lock How to punch key out in inside from the outside

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Re: Mottura Lock How to punch key out in inside from the out

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Mar 2015 12:00

billdeserthills wrote:That door looks to be about a 1/2 inch thick! I can't believe that passes for an entrance door


I think some of the door is layered or painted that beige color and then there is dark wood for another inch or more. You can see the side profile of the chrome escutcheon on the outside Looks like a good 2 inches total.
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Re: Mottura Lock How to punch key out in inside from the out

Postby Sheleftherkeyin » 26 Mar 2015 12:05

Sorry, femurat.

Ok, in the UK, we are trained from an early age to lock the door behind us when we leave and everyone in the household has a key to gain access. What we are generally not accustomed to is as I said in the first post, a lock which is self locking on shutting with no fail-safe to regain entry even with a key when there is a key in the inside of the lock.

Although we often have Yale locks, these have a 'snib' which prevent them from locking behind you if you only intend to leave the house to hang the washing on the line without bringing your house keys and again, it's part of our life-training if you like to deal routinely with Yale's without even having to think about it (i.e putting the snib on on a rare occasion it's not already on. What I'm trying to say in a convaluted way is that the snib on a Yale is rarely on in the UK when people are in the house, just the door will be locked with a key left in the lock.

I think the best option for us would be to lose the spring-loaded mech for the bottom pin as this would result in a locking mechanism the same as we have in the UK. The chances of us leaving the property unlucked are low and the chances of needing a locksmith again would be equally low.

I'll think on it overnight and let you know definitively tomorrow.

Thanks again.

NB The White painted plane is 3/4 inch and the varnished plane 1 1/4 inch I would say. The one lock in the middle means there's a lot of give at the top and bottom edge of the door with the locking mech on while the other has posts going into floor and top of the wall so not such a big issue there. My feeling is to fit a Yale at about a foot and a half above and below the main mech but I would welcome your suggestions.
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Re: Mottura Lock How to punch key out in inside from the out

Postby Sheleftherkeyin » 27 Mar 2015 11:51

Ok, so I'm defo going to go with disarming the self locking mechanism and I'm going to take it to a locksmith to have it done. Grazie tutti per the help! femurat, you're English is top-notch!
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Re: Mottura Lock How to punch key out in inside from the out

Postby Sheleftherkeyin » 27 Mar 2015 11:53

your English, it's better than mine! :shock:
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Re: Mottura Lock How to punch key out in inside from the out

Postby rphillips52 » 11 Sep 2015 10:38

Probably now too late to mention this to the OP, but adopting the habit of not leaving the key in the inside cylinder, only inserting it when actually needed for locking/unlocking, and otherwise leaving it hanging on the know which operates the latch, would be one solution.
Another would be to pull back the key one click after turning it - that will remove its priority (same as removing it completely), and a key can then operate from the other side. But I suggest removing it completely would be more obvious and therefore safer.

This is an increasing problem with the change to profile locks; but it would be the same with leaving the key in a lever lock. However, It is also common for the latch to be operated both sides by a handle - Mottura make such multipoint rimlocks.
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