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Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Need help fixing or installing a lock? We welcome questions from the public here! Sorry, no automotive questions, please.
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WE DO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE OR MOTORCYCLE LOCKS OR IGNITIONS ON THIS FORUM. THIS INCLUDES QUESTIONS ABOUT PICKING, PROGRAMMING, OR TAKING APART DOOR OR IGNITION LOCKS,

Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby gaviinator » 9 Oct 2015 2:41

Trying to figure out what is the most ideal lock picking utilities for this lock. Very old and unable to determine what type of lock it is. Really appreciate the help, thanks in advance!

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If more detailed pics are needed, please let me know I will provide.
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby femurat » 9 Oct 2015 4:25

Looks a lock in use to me, hence it's not one you should touch.
If you really want to pick that one, remove it from the door and then we will be happy to help you.

Cheers :)
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby gaviinator » 9 Oct 2015 11:32

Yes a lock in use, in which would be my storage. I rather not remove it because I left the key inside. What would be the point if I could quickly pick it right there? I would appreciate the help.
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Oct 2015 12:04

gaviinator wrote:Yes a lock in use, in which would be my storage. I rather not remove it because I left the key inside. What would be the point if I could quickly pick it right there? I would appreciate the help.


it's hard to prove someone's story on the internet, and we as hobby lock pickers want to make sure we don't tarnish our hobby by accidentally helping someone get in somewhere they shouldn't be going into. A lot of college students visit here with similar blurry and dark cell phone photos of some random lock on a supply closet on campus that they want to break into, so because of those past people posting here, we are now much more cautious in handing out information or instructions.

If you need to get in, you will need a lock pick set, a $29 dollar Southord brand lock pick set would work fine, don't even bother with paper clips or any of the junk people normally try.

If you've never picked before, this isn't the time to start, the learning curve is substantial, it's not as easy as the movies make it seem.

Call a local locksmith shop and pay the $75 bucks for them to come out and pick it. Otherwise if the building and lock are owned by someone else, contact them to see if someone in facilities or maintenance or management has a spare key to that door.

best of luck,
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby gaviinator » 9 Oct 2015 19:24

Squelchtone,

Thank you for the clarification because I did not know this. I simply did not want to detach my lock just to prove I'm not some college kid trying to cheat on his test. I understand the security precautions when replying to forum threads such as these and how I can simply call a locksmith. I hope you don't take me as a hooligan as there is not much of a way to prove myself over a screen.

I realize the pictures look very unprofessional and seem as though I have bad intentions but please take my word for it, I don't, I was just in a hurry. I'm a Real Estate Developer and own countless properties that I've lost keys to and still need to retrieve items or take pictures of the rooms. This would help me in future occurrences that tend to happen, therefore, I really appreciate the humble response on the lock pick set as I am the type of person to get things done on my own rather than call for assistance, like most will tend to do.

Anyways, I checked the brand of Southord as you mentioned and wanted to find the easiest kit or set that would be available because I'm not trying to pull off a James Bond secretive service operative mission to open my storage door. Would this specific lock as shown in the above images be known as a Tumbler type? I found an ideal set that basically looks like average ordinary keys but are known as jigglers and seems like the easier and quicker route to synch the pins. If not, what would you recommend as the most ideal pick tool of use specifically relating to the above images? Please have a look at the link and let me know what your thoughts are:

http://www.southord.com/Lock-Pick-Tools/SDJ-13.html

Again, thank you for the sincere help and response.

Best regards,

Gavin Connelly
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Oct 2015 19:46

gaviinator wrote:Anyways, I checked the brand of Southord as you mentioned and wanted to find the easiest kit or set that would be available because I'm not trying to pull off a James Bond secretive service operative mission to open my storage door. Would this specific lock as shown in the above images be known as a Tumbler type? I found an ideal set that basically looks like average ordinary keys but are known as jigglers and seems like the easier and quicker route to synch the pins. If not, what would you recommend as the most ideal pick tool of use specifically relating to the above images? Please have a look at the link and let me know what your thoughts are:

http://www.southord.com/Lock-Pick-Tools/SDJ-13.html

Again, thank you for the sincere help and response.

Best regards,

Gavin Connelly


ok.. your images are not great in terms of telling you what pick set to get.. a photo of a knob doesnt tell me anything. I need a well lit close up that is in focus of the keyway where the key inserts into.

that jiggler set is good but you have to know what you're doing, its not magic and it won't just open a lock when you stick it in, it takes practice and you have to know how locks work in order to use the jigglers effectively. A regular pick set and the basic knowledge of how picking works will open that lock, but as a total beginner it may take you anywhere from 1 minute to 1 month depending on how mechanically inclined you area. You could literally stand in front of that door with the jigglers or a pick set for 6 hours and not get it open. like I already said, its not like in the movies where it takes 5 seconds to pick a lock.

for a pick set this is as basic as it gets
https://www.lockpickshop.com/MPXS-08.html

if you have time then you can learn, but if you want to pick that knob the day the pick set arrives in the mail, it may not happen that quickly.

go to youtube and watch Schuyler Towne's 24 videos on how to pick locks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVSL0liiWoc&list=PLF2F1FC3FBFDA27DE

those videos combined with a proper pick set will give you a fighting chance to open that lock. Otherwise just get a locksmith, because your time is worth money too, so its either a $29 dollar pick set + shipping and watching videos for a few days or just call someone and spend $50-$100 and be done with it. but that's up to you.

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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby billdeserthills » 10 Oct 2015 0:24

gaviinator wrote:Trying to figure out what is the most ideal lock picking utilities for this lock. Very old and unable to determine what type of lock it is. Really appreciate the help, thanks in advance!

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If more detailed pics are needed, please let me know I will provide.



It's a schlage model A53PD, difficult for a newb to pick, came with a 5 pin cylinder.
I like to use my pick gun, but it can take years of patient practice to work one well
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby gaviinator » 11 Oct 2015 0:49

Thank you for the responses and help. Very much appreciated it. What year is the door knob and also what would be the most ideal for a "newb" to take care of this on his own in the simplest manner? I thought the jiggler keys were clever but is there a specific feel you gotta have with them?
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby Squelchtone » 11 Oct 2015 1:38

gaviinator wrote:Thank you for the responses and help. Very much appreciated it. What year is the door knob and also what would be the most ideal for a "newb" to take care of this on his own in the simplest manner? I thought the jiggler keys were clever but is there a specific feel you gotta have with them?


I don't think you understand fully. the simplest manner is to buy a pick set and practice picking. there isn't a particular pick in a pick set that we would reach for and say, oh yea, a 1980's Schlage knob, make sure to grab your Southord #3 S-rake, that's the best pick for that kind of lock. That's now how it works, and it feels that's the sort of answer you are expecting or hoping for.

We don't suggest the exact pick based on the exact model of lock. a 5 pin Dexter and a 5 pin Schlage and a 5 pin Arrow or a 5 pin Kwikset use the same tools, and the skill of the operator as well as the pin heights as well as the experience and personal preference of the picker determine which of the picks (hook, half diamond, S rake, or L rake) open the lock fastest or with the least effort.
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby gaviinator » 11 Oct 2015 17:53

And what would you recommend as the fastest or least effort for a "newb" to pick that particular lock, as I am not a hobbyist and merely just a Real Estate Developer. Thanks for the continuous help.
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby jbrint » 11 Oct 2015 18:48

Call a locksmith. Fast and easy and guaranteed.
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Re: Need Help Determining What Type of Lock This Is

Postby Squelchtone » 11 Oct 2015 19:24

gaviinator wrote:And what would you recommend as the fastest or least effort for a "newb" to pick that particular lock, as I am not a hobbyist and merely just a Real Estate Developer. Thanks for the continuous help.


you still do not understand. learning how to pick locks using a normal pick set is the fastest way to open the lock.

Please go call a locksmith, there is no fast or easy way for a beginner to pick that lock, and its not like we're holding out on telling you some secret trick we know that would teach you to open that for free and under 5 minutes.

if you're a real estate developer, one would think you'd have an on call handy man, property manager, or locksmith on retainer for this sort of situation.

locking this thread as I don't think we can help you any further.

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