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Picking ASSA sidebar locks

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Picking ASSA sidebar locks

Postby sj » 8 Nov 2004 16:20

I have tried searching for information on how to pick ASSA sidebar locks (in particular the one I have to try is the ASSA 4800) but haven't found anything on how to pick the sidebar. It is a 6 pin lock with 3 pin sidebar.

ASSA claim it is is pick resistant, so I am assuming the main pins are spool/serrated, but I know how to pick those. I am more interested in the sidebar - does it need special tools or will normal picks do? Also what technique should be used for picking the sidebar - I presume I cause it to bind somehow and the pick the pins individually? One suggested technique is to use an existing key's sidebar as a tension tool, but getting blanks for these is difficult.

Can anyone help?
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Postby skold » 9 Nov 2004 2:04

this is a similar lock to the lockwood twin if i am correct

a lockwood twin has a 3 pin sidebar and 6 pins with spool drivers,

this may have pick resistant pins, but i assure you.. it is not impossible

i suppose you may want to pick the side bar first then the pins, then you will know when the lock is open, from my experience with sidebars , 3 pins shouldn't be too hard, easier than the 6 pins with security drivers.
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Postby Al » 9 Nov 2004 17:13

I strongly recommend making a special tool to manipulate the side pins. On some ASSA locks these pins have to be at the correct angle as well as height, much easier to achieve with a dedicated pick. Still not easy to pick.
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Postby sj » 9 Nov 2004 19:09

Al wrote:I strongly recommend making a special tool to manipulate the side pins. On some ASSA locks these pins have to be at the correct angle as well as height, much easier to achieve with a dedicated pick. Still not easy to pick.


Could you tell me what this tool should look like? I'm not sure if the lock in question needs the sidebar pins to be at the right angle (that could be the Twin series) but it is possible. I don't expect it to be easy (6 pins alone, probably with spools and serrations is going to be tricky) but I would like to give it my best shot
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