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What brand would you choose for a new building?

Thinking of upgrading your door security? Getting a better deadbolt or padlock? Getting a new frame or better hinges? Not sure what brand or model to go with for your particular application? Need a recommendation? Feel free to ask for advice here!

What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby misterj » 3 Jan 2016 13:28

Just a hypothetical question, but in your experience (primarily with durability), what manufacturer would you go with for door hardware for a new commercial building. Assume interior doors or exterior doors without an exit bar.

I work in a number of buildings that have mortise Sargent, Yale, and Schlage key systems/hardware and one with Corbin-Russwin cylindrical locks. The Sargent hardware is the oldest (pushing 30 years in all buildings) and still works flawlessly. No sagging levers, totally smooth operation, etc.

The Schlage hardware isn't quite as old so it's tough to judge but it too seems resilient. No sagging levers or other issues even on the most heavily used doors.

The Yale stuff is 15-20 years old depending on building and it is by far the worst. Nearly all the spring tension is gone on the most heavily used doors. Levers sag to the point where some must be lifted to lock the door, finish is worn, etc. The amount of use should be almost exactly the same as the Sargent stuff.

The Corbin-Russwin stuff is too new to judge, however the same building originally had late 50s era Corbin hardware that was still working great almost 50 years later.

I've worked in buildings with Best cylindrical stuff too and that seems outstanding. There were a couple doors with storeroom levers that were probably opened 100 times a day for 15 years and the hardware itself was still perfect apart from the finish being worn, though the cylinder had worn to the point where the keyway almost looked rectangular.
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Re: What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby cledry » 3 Jan 2016 13:37

I would say you can't go wrong with Grade 1 hardware from any of the established brands. I like PDQ for the lock bodies but not the latches so skip them. Don't care for Marks or Dorma either. I must say though that Anixter/Clark has a winner with their Grade 1 General brand lever especially if cost is a consideration.
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Re: What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby Robotnik » 3 Jan 2016 13:44

Most of my experience is with Schlage and Yale commercial hardware; out of the two, I've seen far fewer problems with Schlage.
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Re: What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby misterj » 3 Jan 2016 13:49

Robotnik wrote:Most of my experience is with Schlage and Yale commercial hardware; out of the two, I've seen far fewer problems with Schlage.

I have a small sample size, but two of our buildings were completed months apart about 20 years ago. One is Schlage mortise, one is Yale mortise. The Schlage gets more use than the Yale and it still looks and operates like new. The Yale stuff is almost laughably bad.

I'm pretty sure the exit bars there are Yale too and they have gotten to the point where they are almost impossible to dog. The Von Duprin bars elsewhere have no issues.
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Re: What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby cledry » 3 Jan 2016 16:03

misterj wrote:
Robotnik wrote:Most of my experience is with Schlage and Yale commercial hardware; out of the two, I've seen far fewer problems with Schlage.

I have a small sample size, but two of our buildings were completed months apart about 20 years ago. One is Schlage mortise, one is Yale mortise. The Schlage gets more use than the Yale and it still looks and operates like new. The Yale stuff is almost laughably bad.

I'm pretty sure the exit bars there are Yale too and they have gotten to the point where they are almost impossible to dog. The Von Duprin bars elsewhere have no issues.


Yale redesigned their mortise locks, they are better now. If I were to choose, money no object I would choose the Sargent. I maintain buildings that have all of the major brands represented in one or another and Sargent have the least issues. They cost a lot more than the Schlage. However Schlage is cheaper to maintain and easier to get, and get parts for.
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Re: What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby Squelchtone » 3 Jan 2016 19:05

[MOD EDIT: Moved from Locks sub forum to What Lock Should I Buy? sub forum]
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Re: What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby dll932 » 4 Jan 2016 14:03

I agree on the Grade one stuff in general. Where I work we have mostly Corbin mortise locks and panic bars, but we also have a fair amount of Schlage cylindrical stuff.
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Re: What brand would you choose for a new building?

Postby Evan » 5 Jan 2016 23:15

misterj wrote:Just a hypothetical question, but in your experience (primarily with durability), what manufacturer would you go with for door hardware for a new commercial building. Assume interior doors or exterior doors without an exit bar.


Would need to know what kind of "commercial building" you are discussing, as different occupancy types would require different types of panic hardware.

As the others have said, Grade 1 hardware is the most durable but you pay for what you get.

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