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Master list known locks?.

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Master list known locks?.

Postby Rakka » 2 Feb 2016 0:46

Anyone know if a list exists containing known locks/padlocks by Maker, Model with individual locks .. .. known pin count, security pin types, techniques/tips/tricks, est. Time to pick and so-on-so-forth, by chance? Anywhere sites, posts or webpages?

Just wondering. Seem a Great Idea to me even if there isnt one then maybe make a personal "cheat sheet ".
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Re: Master list known locks?.

Postby kwoswalt99- » 2 Feb 2016 1:37

Hello, and welcome.
I am unaware of a comprehensive list that covers what you speak of. There's just too many locks out there. The encyclopedia of high security locks covers a lot of locks, but not close to all of them. It does have estimated pick times though.
If you have a specific lock, there's likely info on it here, and almost always somewhere else on the web.
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Re: Master list known locks?.

Postby Squelchtone » 2 Feb 2016 4:11

Rakka wrote: Time to pick


This is the sort of information that would only be handy for a bad guy or a special operator/spook. We all have our own times it takes to pick a lock. What I can pick in 10 seconds might take another experienced picker 30 seconds, and what takes me 3 minutes, someone here may pick in 25 seconds. We're all different, and all locks are different, hi-lo-hi pin combinations, sheer luck, how clean or dirty the lock is, etc.

It might be easier to put time frames on certain very well known locks such as the Master Lock No.3 Padlock, or a Schlage 5 pin residential grade 2 deadbolt, or American Lock 5200US padlock, Medeco deadbolt, and I think it would still be difficult to put times like Master No 3. [1 second - 50 seconds on average]; it would be easier to list them in order of super easy, easy, medium, hard, experienced picker, good luck] and there are already lists here of which common locks most folks tackle in which order. A lot of those lists are based on personal opinions and experiences and are more of a general guideline than a specific set of instructions that you have to follow in a certain order as your build your picking skills up.

To address your other questions about pin count, etc, that's something you get from experience, not a spreadsheet. I can walk up to a lock I've never seen before and tell you in seconds how many pins it has, you simply insert a pick into the lock, lift all the pins, and pull the pick out and count the number of pins that click down. other locks, you just know how many pins they have when you see the lock, all based on past work with the same model lock. Same goes for knowing that a Master No.3 will never had a security pin, but a Master No. 532 will always have at least 1 security pin.

keep practicing and have fun,
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Re: Master list known locks?.

Postby Rakka » 2 Feb 2016 22:49

I dont know anything about the Bad Guy/Spook use of it I wss thinking more along the lines of having more of a Cheat Sheet item. Something You could look at anytime or down the road, and be like... Never heard of this lock A. Im curious about it...I look at my sheet and have an Idea of what Im facing... kinda like a smith would maybe, have prior to a job or anytime I guess.

Im still carrying my service w me I guess. I have a yearning for Information and logs, charts, books...and More Information...... etc.....etc

Times portion I was thinking like how safes have a .....rating? I guess, i.e. After TL follows a number which is the " estimated" time it would take a skilled person with quality tools to access or another set of letters followed by number of " est" time to access using a type of...maybe Any torch I dont recall, but a torch and another with torch and special tools to access. That was the idea I was lookin for.

Basically just a review type item that anyone could look at for whatever reason. Experience will come I agree but I think new thru pro could benifit from this at any givin time and I think if everyone had access to one alot would peek at it here an there to refresh or llook into a rare seen lock or countless other resons.

Thank You Squelchtone for replying I appreciate it very much!!! I think I will just Keep a record of my experience myself and should I ever wonder about or just want to get an idea of what im facing Its here.
Thx again
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Re: Master list known locks?.

Postby Rakka » 2 Feb 2016 22:52

KwosWalt99 - Thank you, I havnt heard of that I will take a look.
Right on! This site has been an excellent source for me so far.
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