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Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

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Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

Postby handcuffsdude » 2 Feb 2016 7:49

So, probably one of my favorite pairs of cuffs these are :)
Introducing the Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs.

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A fairly lucky eBay purchase not to long ago and I hadn't seen the brand prior.
They're really solid feeling. Nice build, very tight tolerances and no wiggle in the bow. This set was second hand and has a few nicks/notches in the metal already from use.

Externally these cuffs look no different from the majority of other hinged cuffs. Same position for the double-lock, similar frame design, standard looking key-way.
However, closer inspection of the ratchet and ratchet area reveals some highly unusual differences.
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These cuffs are actually using a dual-ratchet system.
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The teeth are split down the middle to allow for an 'anti-pick-shield' to be placed in the center of the ratchet area.
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Its only marginally higher than the ratchet teeth, and in my opinion, it could have been done a bit higher to improve resistance to shimming
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However, when compared to other cuffs, you'll also notice that the ratchet teeth in the body of the cuffs are actually almost a third of the way along body. This is compared to the otherwise standard .5cm in that most of my other cuffs have. Its also at a lower point in the curve so it makes it much harder to reach with a shim.
This is what the side profile looks like when the cuffs are closed and flush with the body.
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In another threads a member said that shimming is an inherent issue with handcuffs and that double-locking is standard procedure.
I mentioned that there exists defenses and this is what i was referring to.

Still on the topic of shimming, the tolerances are tight enough that i can't manage to get any material rigid enough down the sides either. There's obviously room for improvement there but i haven't been able to shim them terribly easily. I'll update this post if I do manage however.

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Now. Unfortunatley i can't see inside these cuffs and i also don't want to dismantle them, but the ratchets in the body are split and from what i can feel with a hook pick, have a gap in the middle. (where the 'anti-pick-shield' is i suppose). The key is a standard flag key and not split so there isn't a bar in the way, but it's still very difficult.

This actually makes life really difficult for a would-be escapee. The best i can pick is one notch at a time after fumbling around. As soon as I release one notch the pick slips and i have to start again. Quite fustrating, quite difficult.

Now. The bad news. One of the cuffs allows for the 'ol bump against a wall with the double lock on to release the double lock.
Unfortunately this actually works. I really don't know WHY one cuff works and the other doesn't.
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My wrists are quite sore from my few attempts. But i've also smacked them against the chair and the ground (concrete+carpet) and can't get the same result for both of them...

These are advertised as 'Pick-resistant' handcuffs, and they definitely do better than most.
Unlike pretty much every other vendor, they've actually tried to address the problem of shimming.
However, I'm very disappointed that I can 'bump the double lock off one of the cuffs. :/

So in summary:

Shimmable?
    No. I wouldn't rule out the posibility with some motor/mechanics feeler guages, but It's darn hard


Pickable?
    Yes.
    Definitely one of the hardest to pick. Keyway is farily restrictive, ratchets only open one at a time.

Double locking?
    Yes.
    Can be undone by slamming (one cuff does, the other does not)
    Can be picked but is also hard to angle to correctly

Join?
    double hinge
    Extremely solid.

Other vulnerabilities?
    None noted.

Any Type of additional or unique security?
    Yes.
    Difficult to pick keyway.
    Difficult to shim ratchets with pick-shield bar.
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Re: Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

Postby MBI » 2 Feb 2016 16:54

I haven't seen these cuffs before, thanks for the writeup.
Those have got to be the lowest costs cuffs with a split pawl that I've seen.

handcuffsdude wrote:Now. The bad news. One of the cuffs allows for the 'ol bump against a wall with the double lock on to release the double lock.
Unfortunately this actually works. I really don't know WHY one cuff works and the other doesn't.


It's just a variance in tolerances. Same reason locks are pickable. I didn't catch if you said they were new or not. If one side works and not the other when it's new, having such a variance in tolerances between the two sides of the same pair of cuffs could be a sign of cheap manufacturing.

If you use those enough they'll loosen up and that other side will probably eventually also be able to be disengaged by hitting them.
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Re: Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

Postby handcuffsdude » 2 Feb 2016 18:27

MBI wrote:I haven't seen these cuffs before, thanks for the writeup.
Those have got to be the lowest costs cuffs with a split pawl that I've seen.


They weren't terribly cheap >_>
I've actually got a couple of 2 and 3 split pawl cuffs around, and these are actually the hardest to pick because of the gap.
Only the ones with the extra bar (requiring a split key) are harder to pick.

MBI wrote:It's just a variance in tolerances. Same reason locks are pickable. I didn't catch if you said they were new or not. If one side works and not the other when it's new, having such a variance in tolerances between the two sides of the same pair of cuffs could be a sign of cheap manufacturing.

If you use those enough they'll loosen up and that other side will probably eventually also be able to be disengaged by hitting them.


These are second hand (not new). The variance in tolerances does make sense obviously. And given they're second hand, i'm not sure what their previous life is like. I know for the past few months since i got them they've been taking a beating from people trying to pick them which no-doubt would have made things a bit more worn on the inside.

I'll keep track of them and see if anything changes in future...
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Re: Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

Postby MBI » 2 Feb 2016 18:50

handcuffsdude wrote:
MBI wrote:I haven't seen these cuffs before, thanks for the writeup.
Those have got to be the lowest costs cuffs with a split pawl that I've seen.


They weren't terribly cheap >_>


You're right, cost is relative when you're on the internet.

While I'm sure there are plenty of places that carry them, both in the US and worldwide, I just looked them up on Amazon since it's easy. The base model is only $20 shipped (without the split pawl), the better type like you have are $36 shipped in the USA for a new pair.

Where are you located? You haven't filled in the location field on your user profile.
While I shouldn't be, I was still a bit surprised to see how expensive and hard-to-buy handcuffs can be for civilians in many countries. Seeing as how easy it is to restrain someone with rope or duct tape, I can't imagine they're worried about making kidnapping easier. I'd guess they just don't want people to be able to practice getting out of them. You know, like the folks on this forum do. :lol:

Not many reviews that I could see, main complaint is that the tolerances are loose so they rattle when carried. One user recommended limiting them to training or emergency use as a backup pair, rather than as a primary pair of handcuffs for police use. How do they seem to you? Side by side, do they seem as strong or well built as S&W or Peerless?

They intrigue me though. When I get a little spare lock money I'm going to pick up a set to play with.
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Re: Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

Postby handcuffsdude » 3 Feb 2016 1:33

MBI wrote:You're right, cost is relative when you're on the internet.

While I'm sure there are plenty of places that carry them, both in the US and worldwide, I just looked them up on Amazon since it's easy. The base model is only $20 shipped (without the split pawl), the better type like you have are $36 shipped in the USA for a new pair.


So this specific set just cost me $80 AUD Dollary-doo's. Incl shipping from the US to AU.
$36 is an absolute bargain!

MBI wrote:Where are you located? You haven't filled in the location field on your user profile.

Duly noted! And updated accordingly. In Australia's East Coast!

MBI wrote:Not many reviews that I could see, main complaint is that the tolerances are loose so they rattle when carried. One user recommended limiting them to training or emergency use as a backup pair, rather than as a primary pair of handcuffs for police use. How do they seem to you? Side by side, do they seem as strong or well built as S&W or Peerless?


I'd say these are nicer than my S&W's and feel much sturdier, much nicer action of the ratchets as well. really smooth. Not much rattle to speak of that i can say but these are also hinged cuffs so the rattle should/would be much less... Maybe adding a third hinge would reduce any wiggle though..

I'll chuck up some comparison stuff a little later and go through what i think about them relative to each-other. Probably won't get round to that until i've gone through and documented each set of hand-cuffs i've got... I just got my TCH 840 cuffs in today as well so there's more to be done! :D

MBI wrote:They intrigue me though. When I get a little spare lock money I'm going to pick up a set to play with.

Would love to hear your thoughts if you do get a set.
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Re: Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

Postby QuantumEntangled » 7 Feb 2016 18:55

Also, those Schrades are NIJ certified for tampering and strength and overall quality standards. I believe the code is 307.01 although don't quote me on that. Personally I think those are every bit as good and in some ways superior to the more "common" S&W or Peerless, Hiatts or CTS Thompson cuffs all in wide use in U.S. police forces. The special split pawl anti pick feature would be well appreciated.
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Re: Schrade SCHC3N Hinged Stainless Steel Handcuffs

Postby handcuffsdude » 7 Feb 2016 20:29

QuantumEntangled wrote:Also, those Schrades are NIJ certified for tampering and strength and overall quality standards. I believe the code is 307.01 although don't quote me on that. Personally I think those are every bit as good and in some ways superior to the more "common" S&W or Peerless, Hiatts or CTS Thompson cuffs all in wide use in U.S. police forces. The special split pawl anti pick feature would be well appreciated.


You are correct, the standard is "NIJ Standard 0307.01" aka, "NIJ Standard for Metallic Handcuffs"
Which can be read in its entirety here:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/082981.pdf

Its basically the bare minimum requirements to have your handcuffs certified.
Interestingly,
The handcuffs meet the requirement of this standard if four or more of the five handcuff specimens pass all of the tests
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