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by Joshua904 » 31 Jan 2016 12:55
Thanks! I have to try new things.. Picking that sfic to control is still driving me crazy. Which I got to oper line again. http://imgur.com/a/hRhf4Two side by side pics of it picked. I shook the pins down so you could see it, and the other is of it set (at operating line). Since you can see two pins in the first pin spot, and setting it only moves up enough to hide the one above it. I'm assuming that this separation would be the control sheer for the first pin. When shoving it higher, I can feel it set hard. I don't feel any other spots where it catches, so I'm also assuming it isn't master keyed. Also since its six pins, the second and third stacks is what turns the locking bar.. So getting these three should make it pretty simple to get the last three.. In theory. This line of thought sound correct with everyone?
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by kwoswalt99- » 31 Jan 2016 13:21
Joshua904 wrote:Also since its six pins, the second and third stacks is what turns the locking bar..
Not sure what you mean by this. 
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by Joshua904 » 31 Jan 2016 13:51
Actually ignore that. I thought I read somewhere that one six pin locks the second and third stack provided the tension to turn the control sleeve, and on seven pin systems, it was the third and fourth. Looking at pictures, it's all on piece.. So maybe I misread or misunderstood. I probably should have posted this in a different thread as well.
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by kwoswalt99- » 31 Jan 2016 14:03
Joshua904 wrote:Actually ignore that. I thought I read somewhere that one six pin locks the second and third stack provided the tension to turn the control sleeve, and on seven pin systems, it was the third and fourth. Looking at pictures, it's all on piece.. So maybe I misread or misunderstood. I probably should have posted this in a different thread as well.
What you read was probably about LFIC locks, as they operate somewhat like you described.
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by GWiens2001 » 31 Jan 2016 16:06
kwoswalt99- wrote:Joshua904 wrote:Actually ignore that. I thought I read somewhere that one six pin locks the second and third stack provided the tension to turn the control sleeve, and on seven pin systems, it was the third and fourth. Looking at pictures, it's all on piece.. So maybe I misread or misunderstood. I probably should have posted this in a different thread as well.
What you read was probably about LFIC locks, as they operate somewhat like you described.
Some LFICs work that way. Some work differently. Gordon
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by sheerluck » 3 Feb 2016 14:53
 Another Roto Elzett warded padlock. Easy, but very satisfying KLUNK.   EZ-pick practice lock from jdu1957. Time to start more structured learning...
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by Robotnik » 3 Feb 2016 21:48
 Couldn't resist picking up one of those NYC Housing Authority Abus 34/55's discussed elsewhere on the forum. Received it today, and after getting my bearings with the tiny keyway in an otherwise hefty lock, had it open.
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by Joshua904 » 3 Feb 2016 22:51
Landlord got some new schlange keypad deadbolt and handle, I installed and got the old ones. Deadbolt was schlange, C keyway- I know it has atleast one spool, but I've seen where some had 4.. I figured it was just dirty, but that coulda been the case. A little challenging. The turn knob had a kwikset (kw1 keyway). It had filth induced serrated pins all the way around (we never used it). Some wd40 quickly turned it into a sloppy 5 pinner my girlfriend picked 3 times in 60 seconds. She just started a week ago. (Modified the Wally lock for her from previous posts) 
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by sheerluck » 4 Feb 2016 3:49
 A rekeyable Lemen from a recent auction haul. I must have picked it a half a dozen times before I realized how much pressure it takes to pop the shackle open... Didn't gut it yet. Most of the time the high cuts don't need picking at all - or perhaps my sloppy technique just accidentally sets them them while I'm picking in the back or feeling the lock. I'd like to rekey this with a slightly deeper cuts for them, but need to make / get a key made first.
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by sheerluck » 5 Feb 2016 16:24
 Cocraft 400 & 500. (Same 5-pin core in both , I think.) I've been trying the 400 for a week now, but the keyway has been too tight for me. Today I bought the 500 hoping for a slightly larger key, but no such luck. Still, I decided to give it a go... And it was easy! Suspicious of luck I picked up the 400, which was similarly easy. What mojo I had! Few hours later I tried them again, but could not make any headway. *sigh* So they go to the "got open but cannot pick reliably" -pile... Apropos: I think Clas Ohlson updated their Cocraft padlocks at some point. Looking at YouTube vids from a few years back the keyway looks much more open than it is now, and the engraved(?) branding is new too.
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by sheerluck » 6 Feb 2016 17:02
 "Swallow", 5 pins, nasty bitting, Made in China. First open after a few days of sporadic attempts, got this from an auction earlier this week.
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by knowspicker537 » 7 Feb 2016 14:37
Old yale 6 pin i mean this thing was installed and never changed or serviced, and it still works fine, thats quality -knowspicker537 
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by knowspicker537 » 9 Feb 2016 10:56
masterlock bike lock weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee -knowspicker537 
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by Robotnik » 10 Feb 2016 0:17
 Schlage Everest LFIC. The shallow fifth and sixth pins were tough to get at, and the check pin bound after setting a couple top pins (unusual based on the numerous Everests I've picked; usually I've set it last).
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by kwoswalt99- » 10 Feb 2016 1:01
knowspicker537 wrote:masterlock bike lock weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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I as wondering about that keyway, and apparently it is rekeyable. It looks like it was made to take a KW1 blank, and appears to be a wafer lock.
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