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Are there different Master Locks in US and Europe?

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Are there different Master Locks in US and Europe?

Postby pillar » 3 Feb 2016 12:45

There are alot of videos on youtube (Bill) where Master Locks are picked very easily.
I have one 4 Pin myself, bought in Germany.
I am having troubles picking it, perhaps because it has extreme spring tension.
There is no spring tension when unlocked.

Could you tell me if this is one of the weak Master locks or do they have better locks in Europe?
http://abload.de/img/lfql3.jpg

The shackle reads Boron Carbide.
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Re: Are there different Master Locks in US and Europe?

Postby billdeserthills » 3 Feb 2016 15:27

Looks like a standard new style master padlock. There are a couple of things you can do to make picking easier, for one you can put a spray
lubricant into the keyhole and another, if you have a large enough vise, you can put the lock in it so that the shackle remains compressed, that
will relieve some tension. I had a client with 8 of these locks that needed to be opened, most picked open but a couple needed the double-handle
master key. I couldn't tell the difference between the boron shackle and the old hardened steel ones, which makes me think the real difference was
that the boron shackle likely costs less $$, the better to give the ceo a bigger bonus
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Re: Are there different Master Locks in US and Europe?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 3 Feb 2016 21:46

Bill is right, boron alloys are good for low cost production. I've heard good things about these shackles, even though there is no boron carbide in them.
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Re: Are there different Master Locks in US and Europe?

Postby pillar » 6 Feb 2016 15:03

Thanks, will try :)

I thought those boron shackles are way better.
Bosnianbill tested one of those in one of his videos, but it was a Commando lock, probably comparable to Master as Maserati to Fiat....
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Re: Are there different Master Locks in US and Europe?

Postby GWiens2001 » 6 Feb 2016 17:47

Sometimes the same lock will be sold by Master under one name in one country and under another name in another country. The Master V-Line (brass body padlock) is one example that is sold with another name elsewhere.

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