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My main hurdle

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My main hurdle

Postby Thanshin » 23 Feb 2016 6:18

Having just started a few weeks ago, my experience is just opening 7/12 normal locks and 4/6 dimple locks.

I've sensed a pattern:
- There are locks that click and clatter easily and a lot, and I open those quickly
- There are locks that click distinctly and only when the pins set; those I open eventually (3-30 minutes)
- There are locks that click faintly or not at all. Those, I don't open.

My current theory is that in the last case what's happening is that I overset some pin from the start, every time I start. Be it for deep bittings or for thick cheap picks that overset dimple pins just by passing nearby.
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Re: My main hurdle

Postby QuantumEntangled » 24 Feb 2016 19:17

Sure, you could be oversetting. If you want you can take a look with a light into the keyway to try and discern pin heights. Or take a look at the key bitting to see what's going on inside. If you dont have the key take some different hooks and feel each pin starting from the back and working your way frontwards. A small half diamond would be okay--you are trying to run the tool over each pin, not to set them but to get a feel for whats up inside. Hold the tool loosely and let it gently pivot between your fingers. Pay close attention to ascertain the stacks' lengths. Take your time and compare each stack to the ones adjacent to it. Write down your observations if you like. Once you know what is going on inside the lock, then you can plan your attack. Try a few different hooks and maybe a half diamond. Stay away from rakes for this exercise because you want to feel what is going on. Try to visualize the pins as you feel them to build a picture.
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Re: My main hurdle

Postby jbrint » 24 Feb 2016 21:31

QuantumEntangled wrote:Sure, you could be oversetting. If you want you can take a look with a light into the keyway to try and discern pin heights. Or take a look at the key bitting to see what's going on inside. If you dont have the key take some different hooks and feel each pin starting from the back and working your way frontwards. A small half diamond would be okay--you are trying to run the tool over each pin, not to set them but to get a feel for whats up inside. Hold the tool loosely and let it gently pivot between your fingers. Pay close attention to ascertain the stacks' lengths. Take your time and compare each stack to the ones adjacent to it. Write down your observations if you like. Once you know what is going on inside the lock, then you can plan your attack. Try a few different hooks and maybe a half diamond. Stay away from rakes for this exercise because you want to feel what is going on. Try to visualize the pins as you feel them to build a picture.


This is sage advice. Anytime I get a new lock I start at the front and push the pins up and then slip the pick to the next pin until i get to the back of the stack. I get a pin count and have a good idea which pick to start with. If I see or feel any security pins I will apply slight tension and determine what kind of pins are in there and then get to the fun.
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