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False set

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False set

Postby Knots » 10 Mar 2016 18:42

A friend of mine just getting into the art asked me a question the other day and it made me realize I may have been explaining a certain aspect of picking wrong.
I made a few suggestions of locks to grab and gave him an old easypin lock I had (a lock with spots for 5 pins and 8 additional security pins to repin it). He was working a brinks commercial lock he picked up at home depot. This particular lock he bought binds with moderate tension, after he set pin two it falls into a deep set. I described this as a "false set", however it doesn't have any spool pins, all regular. I described it as false because the picking order is 2(false set) 5 314 and then 2 again. I thought it was just an overset because when I had all the pins set I let off the tension and felt a pin drop, number 2,which I reset. However I haven't had to do that since but you always have to reset pin two last despite getting that really deep set when you first pick it.
This is as far as I'm concerned a false set because it acts the same way a spool pin does. Does anyone else ever describe this as a false set, with whatever lock, when you know it's all regular pins?
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Re: False set

Postby WestCoastPicks » 10 Mar 2016 22:42

I think it's fair to call it a false set, I would probably do the same.
A false set, is just that. A False set. Spools are well known for giving you false sets, but are not required.
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Re: False set

Postby Knots » 11 Mar 2016 4:10

Ty for the input. I have this master lock. Pro series 6121, been giving me crap for a week now. I YouTubed it like I do with most trouble locks, 4 spools and a 5th serrated pin. The last pin is the regular, it keeps giving me a deep false set but I haven't gotten the hang of picking spools yet. Plus the keyway is at am angle. Idk if it's by design or a defect but when clamped I have to angle the pick about 30 degrees to get good position on the pins.
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