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miller six lever

Postby mmcke1 » 12 Mar 2016 20:30

Hello, i am new to Lock Picking 101. i would really appreciate if anyone can provide me with some info on the lock i have linked below. it was given to me by a friend; i have seen similar locks but not this exact model; also i have no key to it and unsure how i should go about opening. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

http://imgur.com/wVpQ1RP

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Re: miller six lever

Postby GWiens2001 » 12 Mar 2016 20:34

There are three levers on each side of the keyway. If you want to pick that, you will need to use the search button here and look for 'picking lever locks'. You need to understand how the lock works before you can pick it. That ain't no pin tumbler lock, so it requires other tools to pick open. :wink:

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Re: miller six lever

Postby billdeserthills » 13 Mar 2016 2:29

These are actually pretty easy to make a key for, but you will need a blank to begin. I have a friend, who makes his own
blanks using just a drill and a grinder & a piece of brass bar stock
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Re: miller six lever

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Mar 2016 9:04

If you want to see what the keys look like, Lauren has an AMAZING thread full of keys he has made for locks like this. Truly drool-worthy.

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Re: miller six lever

Postby MBI » 13 Mar 2016 17:16

GWiens2001 wrote:If you want to see what the keys look like, Lauren has an AMAZING thread full of keys he has made for locks like this. Truly drool-worthy.

Gordon


He also wrote a book with techniques for picking and decoding many types of antique locks.
http://www.blurb.com/b/6565733-the-extr ... -collector
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Re: miller six lever

Postby mmcke1 » 14 Mar 2016 11:08

Much appreciated for the replies. Will definitely look into ordering that book.
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Re: miller six lever

Postby kwoswalt99- » 15 Mar 2016 18:02

Picking them is quite easy, all you need is a tool to lift the levers, and some shackle tension.
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Re: miller six lever

Postby Squelchtone » 15 Mar 2016 18:44

kwoswalt99- wrote:Picking them is quite easy, all you need is a tool to lift the levers, and some shackle tension.


is the tip of the key what throws the "shackle/bolt mechanism" (not sure what to call it) after the rest of the key aligns the levers or is simply aligning levers enough to open the shackle? I ask because Miller 6 lever padlock keys look like they have 4 levers, so Im guessing one is used to throw bolt.

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Re: miller six lever

Postby kwoswalt99- » 15 Mar 2016 18:53

Squelchtone wrote:
kwoswalt99- wrote:Picking them is quite easy, all you need is a tool to lift the levers, and some shackle tension.


is the tip of the key what throws the "shackle/bolt mechanism" (not sure what to call it) after the rest of the key aligns the levers or is simply aligning levers enough to open the shackle? I ask because Miller 6 lever padlock keys look like they have 4 levers, so Im guessing one is used to throw bolt.

Thanks,
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There is no bolt, the levers have hooked ends which hold in two notches in the shackle. When they are spread apart far enough, the shackle is free to move; the shackle is pushed open by a small coil spring.
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Re: miller six lever

Postby peterwn » 23 Mar 2016 22:26

GWiens2001 wrote:There are three levers on each side of the keyway. If you want to pick that, you will need to use the search button here and look for 'picking lever locks'. You need to understand how the lock works before you can pick it. That ain't no pin tumbler lock, so it requires other tools to pick open. :wink:

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There may be a 'baffle' plate between the levers which requires a deep cut on the key - it should be noticeable when looking into the keyhole. The British made 'Union 6 Lever' double bitted padlocks have such a plate. The plate can be behind the front lever or front two levers and doubles the number of available differs.
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Re: miller six lever

Postby billdeserthills » 23 Mar 2016 23:20

peterwn wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:There are three levers on each side of the keyway. If you want to pick that, you will need to use the search button here and look for 'picking lever locks'. You need to understand how the lock works before you can pick it. That ain't no pin tumbler lock, so it requires other tools to pick open. :wink:

Gordon

There may be a 'baffle' plate between the levers which requires a deep cut on the key - it should be noticeable when looking into the keyhole. The British made 'Union 6 Lever' double bitted padlocks have such a plate. The plate can be behind the front lever or front two levers and doubles the number of available differs.




This lock doesn't have a baffle plate, it is a very simple old lock
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