trying to figure out what cards im missing for 1200pch

[sleepyrz]

ok so here is what i do have

p1
p3
p4
pf4
p5l
p5r
p6l
p6r
pf8
p10
pf11
pf13
p16
p24l
p24r
p25
p29l
p29r
p30
p31
p31x
p33
p34
pf34
p35
pmc37l
p37
p39
pf43l
pf43r
p45
pf48
pmc50
pmc51ar
pf51l
pf51r
p52
pf52
p53
px56
px57l
px57r
px59
px60
pf60l
pf60r
pf63l
pf63r
pf65
pf67l
pf67r
pf68
pf70
pf71
pmc71
pf73l
pf73r
pf74
pf80l
pf80r
pf80rr
pf85l
pf85r
pf86r
pf86rr
pf87
pf88r
pf89
pf100
pf101
px101
pf102
px102
pf113
pf114
pf118
pf119
pf201
pf204
pf205
pf206
pf207
pf208
pf209
pf211
pf215
px263
pf301l
pf301r
pf302l
pf302r
pf303
pf304
pf306
mmal
mmar
miar

i know im missing
mial
pf305
pf236
pf88l
px14


any help is appreciated as im trying to make sure i have all of them if i need them

[MBI]

I don't want to be rude, but I doubt many people are going to read that entire list and check them against a list of all possible cards.

Why not buy a copy of HPC CodeSource? Then you can just print any card that you need if you don't already have it.

[cledry]

You can also go on HPC's site and look at the list of available cards.

[Squelchtone]

You can also go on HPC's site and look at the list of available cards.

+1 http://www.hpcworld.com/cc/punchmachine/standarddeck/index.html

and in case that page ever goes away, I'm pasting it here:

No. PDECK-104
Punch Machine™ Code Card Deck
(Included with 1200PCH Punch Machine)
NOTE: All cards are available separately.

Card No.
Description
P1
American Motors (D, E, K, L)
P3
Arrow (A2)/Best/Falcon/Eagle
P4
Briggs & Stratton Disc (Gas Cap)
P5L
Chicago/Fort Single-Sided Disc
P5R
Chicago/Fort Single-Sided Disc
P6L
Chicago Pin
P6R
Chicago Pin
P10
Chrysler Pin (1969+)
P16
Dexter Large Pin (1969+)
P24L
Ford 5-Pin Double-Sided (1965+) 2nd
P24R
Ford 5-Pin Double-Sided (1965+) Primary
P25
General Motors Wafer 36+
P29L
Illinois Single-Sided Disc
P29R
Illinois/Timberline Single-Sided Disc
P30
American Small Pin
P31
Kwikset Large Pin
P31X
Kwikset Titan
P34
Master Small Pin (7K)
P35
Master Standard Large Pin (1K)
P37
National Cabinet Single-Sided Disc
P39
National Cabinet Small Pin Standard
P45
Schlage Large Pin
P52
Weslock Large Pin
P53
XL Lock Letterbox (X, K Series)
PF4
Audi/Porsche/VW
PF8
Volvo/VW (Gas Cap)
PF11
Ford Capri/Fiesta/Jaguar
PF13
Merkur (German Ford) (1985-1989)
PF33
BMW 75+ Mercedes Benz 77+
PF34
BMW/Mercedes (11-Wafer) (1975+)
PF43L
British Autos
PF43R
British Autos & Cycles
PF48
Ford Cargo Truck (1986+)/Sterling
PF51L
Volvo/ MG Primary
PF51R
Volvo/ MG Secondary
PF52
Volvo 240, 740, 760
PF60L
Datsun/Subaru/Nissan (F,M,W)
PF60R
Datsun/Nissan (M,N)
PF63L
Ford/Mazda Truck 2000-2499/3500-4600
PF63R
Ford/Mazda Truck 1500-1999/5000-6100
PF65
Ford/Mercury/Mazda (6500-7733)
PF67L
Datsun/Subaru/GMC/Nissan (8-Disc)
PF67R
GMC Tiltmaster (8-Disc) 82+
PF68
Ford/Mazda MPV Minivan 10-Cut
PF70
Honda Ignition (thru 76) 2001-4949
PF71
Honda Door/Trunk (thru 76) 111111-444444
PF73L
Honda 82+X71, X130, Acura 86+ ? Honda 82+
PF73R
X129, X181, X183, X208
PF74
Acura (1990+)/Honda (1986+) 5001-8442
PF80L
Hyundai/Chevy/Isuzu (C,H,U,Z)
PF80R
Toyota/Mitsubishi (D,K,R,S)
PF80RR
Toyota (F,P)
PF85L
GM-Chevy Spectrum/Isuzu/Mitsubishi (A,H)
PF85R
Daihatsu/Toyota 84+ (K)
PF86R
GM-Chevy Nova/Toyota Ignition (R)
PF86RR
GM-Chevy Nova/Toyota 2nd (S)
PF87
Toyota 8-Disc
PF88L
Mitsubishi/Suzuki (E,N,U)
PF88R
Daihatsu/Toyota/Prism (D,G,W,X)
PF89
Geo Tracker/Suzuki Sidekick/Isuzu
PF100
Chrysler/Renault/Peugeot (Primary
PF101
Chrysler/Renault (Secondary)
PF102
Chrysler/Renault (Secondary)
PF114
Chrysler/Renault/Peugeot
PF118
Chrysler/Renault/Peugeot/Eagle
PF119
Eagle Premier Ignition (1988+)
PF201
Hyundai-U.S. (X-Series) (1986+)
PF204
GM-Allante (1987+)
PF205
GM-Pontiac LeMans (S) (1988+)
PF206
GM-Cavalier (1991+) / N Body (1992+)
PF207
GM-Saturn
PF208
Geo Prizm/Toyota Camry/Corolla
PF209
Toyota Corolla Wagon (1993+)
PF211
Hyundai Sonata
PF215
GM (1994+) Modular Ignition Program
PF236
Kia 2003
PF301L
Kia/Hyundai 7-Cut (Y1-2000)
PF301R
Kia/Hyundai 7-Cut (X1-2000, Y7001-8200)
PF302L
Hyundai 8-Cut (T)
PF302R
Hyundai 8-Cut (S)
PF303
Ford Aspire (Kia) 10-Cut (B Series)
PF304
Nissan Pathfinder 96+
PF305
Kia Sephia 98+
PF306
Mitsubishi Galant 8-Cut 99+
PMC37L
Honda Cycles (1983+) (A,B)
PMC37R
Honda Cycles (1983+) (C,D)
PMC50
Kawasaki Cycles (1979+)
PMC51AL
Kawasaki 6 & 7-Cut (B)
PMC51AR
Kawasaki 7-Cut (A)
PX14
Chicago/Steelcase Small Pin
PX32
Hudson Disc
PX56
Ford 10-Cut
PX57L
Lockwood (Aust) LW4, LW5
PX57R
Lockwood (Aust) LW4R, LW5R
PX59
Chrysler Double-Sided (1989-1992)
PX60
Chrysler Double-Sided (1993+)
PX101
Ford Eight Cut (96+)
PX102
Chrysler 98 8-Cut
PX263
Saturn 2003+

MICROMETER CARDS
MIAL
Micrometer Card Left Hand (inches)
MIAR
Micrometer Card Right Hand (inches)
MMAL
Micrometer Card Left Hand (mm)
MMAR
Micrometer Card Right Hand (mm)

[jeffmoss26]

Good reference Squelch!

[sleepyrz]

That can't possibly be all of the cards
I have some that are not on there.........
Like this pmc71

[MBI]

That can't possibly be all of the cards
I have some that are not on there.........
Like this pmc71

It's not all of them, it's just a list of their "standard deck" of cards. The set that is included with some versions of the Blitz code cutter or punch machine.

I imagine there are a few obsolete cards that exist but are no longer listed or made.
You'll notice that most of the high-security lock cards aren't listed there either. Most of those you can special order through a good locksmith supply wholesaler.

That's why if you buy their code software you can print cards that you need. Also the micrometer cards are very handy as they allow you to code cut anything for which you have depth and space information.

[Squelchtone]

This looks like the full list, even has your pmc71 card on it:

http://www.hpcworld.com/cc/blitzandswitch/xref/index.html

you now you can search for this on hpc's site and google as well, right?

[sleepyrz]

i have and i have been there and tried to use it but its just so jumbled up

just wish it was in an order by card number

[sleepyrz]

What about this pf113
It's not on there......

[Squelchtone]

What about this pf113
It's not on there......

I don't know what to tell you buddy, call or email HPC, sorry, but we are not HPC support..

or google it: here's that Renault/Peugeot pf113 card.. http://www.plsgroup.com/%28S%28gb03axmg ... &sid=12008 you expect to be cutting a lot of Renault/Peugeot keys?

What's your end goal? just to know all the cards ever made or to have the entire complete set even if it is for cars and motorcycles you might never come across in the US?

[sleepyrz]

It's the title of the thread........

I counted my cards and I only had 95
This included one duplicate and two that aren't even on the standard deck of cards list
So I only have 92 out of a deck of 104
I want to make sure I can do all of what I am supposed to be able to do

An oddity i just noticed if you look at the standard deck of cards there is a pf236 that says its for kia2003 but if you look at hpc's cross reference there is no pf236.......

[sleepyrz]

Ok so I talked to hpc and even their codesource software doesn't have a pf236.........
Also they didn't have a full list readily available that they knew of -_-


All the points I raised were met with silence and let me get back to you about that

So I gave them my contact info and I'm waiting for a reply

[jbrint]

It's the title of the thread........

I counted my cards and I only had 95
This included one duplicate and two that aren't even on the standard deck of cards list
So I only have 92 out of a deck of 104
I want to make sure I can do all of what I am supposed to be able to do

An oddity i just noticed if you look at the standard deck of cards there is a pf236 that says its for kia2003 but if you look at hpc's cross reference there is no pf236.......

It seems like you need to reach out to HPC and have them clear this up for you. Its always good to get a second set of eyes to verify things when you can't figure it out, but this is paperwork and just requires you to put in the time to reference information that is freely available. There is a huge difference between can't and won't and this to me at least seems like you just do not want to put in the time to go through the information and check off whats there and what isn't.

Have you had any issues missing cards up to this point? Any keys you haven't been able to cut as a result? That would be where i started if it were me.

Create an Excel file and make a card catalogue, one row for cards you have and one for cards that exist. Use the search function and when you have 2 results from the search mark them green. Once you get through all that is in your inventory row go get the cards that are missing or make a determination if you actually need them. You can create a formula to automate this process and should make very short work of it.

[MBI]

i have and i have been there and tried to use it but its just so jumbled up

just wish it was in an order by card number

You can order individual cards by number. At least some of them anyway. You just have to put in some effort to find a place that's selling them individually. The problem you might run into is that they usually cost around $15 apiece when sold that way.

I want to make sure I can do all of what I am supposed to be able to do

I imagine you've already discovered that there are some keys you can't cut with the punch, right?
Some things require the regular kind of machine with a rotary cutting wheel.
So having all the cards won't help you in every case.

Then you have laser track keys and other types which need entirely different duplicators and code machines. It's an expensive business to get set up for, if you really want to cover all the bases.

And I'll say this again: Remember that you can always fall back on the micrometer cards. There is depth and space data available online for the majority of common brands you'll run across. With those cards and that data, you're covered for an awful lot of contingencies.