Why Your Friends are Bad People

[jbrint]

So there is this....



You wonder what exactly that is? Well I have a friend who custom pinned this Tuff Lock with an American core as a challenge because he knows I enjoy picking American locks and he made a bet that I couldn't pick it. I could get 5 of the 6 pins set but pin 5 would always bind regardless of what I did and I figured he made a driver pin or did something goofy to throw me off.

Today I was making another attempt and the key pin fell out into the keyway revealing what had been done. That " Driver Pin" is a rod that is too long to turn the core and was a booby trap. I tried to get it out to take a picture but the Wd40 helped me loose it trying to shake it out. If I find it I will post a picture and follow up.

After I got the shortened spring out it opened right up. I intend to act like I don't know what he has done and pick it in front of him with ease.

[GWiens2001]

I'm just wondering what they did to the lock that allowed the key pin to fall out into the keyway.

Gordon

[jbrint]

:lol:

I'm just wondering what they did to the lock that allowed the key pin to fall out into the keyway.

Gordon

This thing has had a rough life. They keyway is all beat up and it looks like a screwdriver assault. I am very glad it worked out like this though.

[billdeserthills]

You should dissasemble that padlock down to it's smallest part, toss it all in a small box and say
"It all just fell apart, I don't know what happened"


I once loaded up a lock cylinder with spool drivers and asked my brother if he would show me how he picks locks open
He never did get it to open, I got a few laughs watching him try. He was all "I don't understand it, it's turning but just a little bit"
this was back in 1990, so finding spool drivers in a schlage lock was new for him

[WestCoastPicks]

Your friends maybe.. My friends know I won't pock a lock unless I see it opened.

[jbrint]

Your friends maybe.. My friends know I won't pock a lock unless I see it opened.

Maybe, however it is not beyond the realm of possibility that I would do something like this to them. In the end I am still going to win the bet and get the prize.

[Squelchtone]

zeke79 once sent me a Schlage pinned way out of MACS to like 191919 with some other tricks inside from what he hinted at, and it's kicking around here somewhere, still unpicked.

[jbrint]

zeke79 once sent me a Schlage pinned way out of MACS to like 191919 with some other tricks inside from what he hinted at, and it's kicking around here somewhere, still unpicked.

What are friends for right? A little superglue, some BB's, a piece of sponge.

[billdeserthills]

zeke79 once sent me a Schlage pinned way out of MACS to like 191919 with some other tricks inside from what he hinted at, and it's kicking around here somewhere, still unpicked.

When I was a kid, the other locksmith in town used that bitting as his master key,
on the commercial property he owned

[cledry]

zeke79 once sent me a Schlage pinned way out of MACS to like 191919 with some other tricks inside from what he hinted at, and it's kicking around here somewhere, still unpicked.

When I was a kid, the other locksmith in town used that bitting as his master key,
on the commercial property he owned

Not a very good locksmith.

[nine4t4]

I'd raise the bar and hand him back something just as evil. Turn it into a "puzzle lock"

Assuming it has a key, don't change the actual pinning. If it doesn't, get a key and cylinder. Drill a small hole through the cylinder and plug near the bottom of the keyway . Make the hole in the plug deep enough that the pin can clear the cylinder.

What you're trying to do is add a pin that will move into place (the plug) if the lock is oriented properly, in this case almost upside down. If the lock isn't held with the keyway upside down the pin will bind the lock


Social Engineering -ish aspect
With padlocks, people tend to match the orientation of the lock to the key. I.e. they'll hold the key biting up, and twist the lock to match up.

You can take the lock and by turning the lock mechanism upside down, the pin clears and the key works. If you're slick he won't even realize what you're doing. Keep the key, with the excuse that you don't want him to decipher the biting.

Unless by fluke he picks it with the keyway upside down it's not likely to open, but because you used a key, it looks functional