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by cledry » 25 Mar 2016 1:05
It is driving me crazy but I can't recall the name of this unusual gate lock. It isn't a panic bar. Someone tried to sell these to me once and I thought it was a pretty neat idea. Now I need one and can't recall who makes it!  
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by billdeserthills » 25 Mar 2016 17:19
I never saw one, but it always makes me wonder just how proud a manufacturer is, of their product, when they refuse to put the name on it anywhere
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by cledry » 25 Mar 2016 17:42
Just found out it is called Posibar.
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by RumballSolutions » 25 Mar 2016 18:57
Looks interesting. So from the look of it, it uses a deadbolt with bolt extension that throws into a staple arrangement on the gate post? Only issue I see is the exposed thumb turn on the interior side, but many AHJs don't like locking people in. In the battle of life safety vs. security, life safety pretty much always wins! 
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by cledry » 25 Mar 2016 21:13
RumballSolutions wrote:Looks interesting. So from the look of it, it uses a deadbolt with bolt extension that throws into a staple arrangement on the gate post? Only issue I see is the exposed thumb turn on the interior side, but many AHJs don't like locking people in. In the battle of life safety vs. security, life safety pretty much always wins! 
It automatically locks each time the gate closes.
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by billdeserthills » 25 Mar 2016 22:11
So it looks like the screws + cam fell out of the key cyl and fell in the mech, before the victim got a handful of springs, top & bottom pins--Bet that was Exciting for someone!
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by RumballSolutions » 26 Mar 2016 3:48
cledry wrote:RumballSolutions wrote:Looks interesting. So from the look of it, it uses a deadbolt with bolt extension that throws into a staple arrangement on the gate post? Only issue I see is the exposed thumb turn on the interior side, but many AHJs don't like locking people in. In the battle of life safety vs. security, life safety pretty much always wins! 
It automatically locks each time the gate closes.
Ahh ok, so it's a deadlatching arrangement and uses screw in style mortice cylinders then. Tried to find info online, but only found promotional stuff from a couple of locksmith businesses. Always interesting seeing different hardware from other countries. Down here we usually weld on a gate box and mount a commercial knobset/lever set/codelock. Failing that we use one of the off the shelf solutions from D&D Technologies (good Aussie company that's made it big globally).
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by cledry » 26 Mar 2016 9:11
RumballSolutions wrote:cledry wrote:RumballSolutions wrote:Looks interesting. So from the look of it, it uses a deadbolt with bolt extension that throws into a staple arrangement on the gate post? Only issue I see is the exposed thumb turn on the interior side, but many AHJs don't like locking people in. In the battle of life safety vs. security, life safety pretty much always wins! 
It automatically locks each time the gate closes.
Ahh ok, so it's a deadlatching arrangement and uses screw in style mortice cylinders then. Tried to find info online, but only found promotional stuff from a couple of locksmith businesses. Always interesting seeing different hardware from other countries. Down here we usually weld on a gate box and mount a commercial knobset/lever set/codelock. Failing that we use one of the off the shelf solutions from D&D Technologies (good Aussie company that's made it big globally).
Yes, we usually do exactly like you.    
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by GWiens2001 » 26 Mar 2016 16:49
Maybe it is just me, but couldn't someone just reach through and open that lock with the inner handle?
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by Squelchtone » 26 Mar 2016 17:59
GWiens2001 wrote:Maybe it is just me, but couldn't someone just reach through and open that lock with the inner handle?
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I'm hoping it's a mid job photo before the expanded metal is welded to the gate? Squelchtone
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by kwoswalt99- » 26 Mar 2016 19:38
Do you hire out your welding, or does your shop have those capabilities?
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by MakinBacon » 9 Apr 2016 10:10
Maybe it's a passage lever? Just to keep the gate from flapping in the breeze?
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by cledry » 9 Apr 2016 11:03
Yes, indeed it is just a passage lever. That is the security feature the HOA wanted on the gates to prevent another Trayvon Martin type incident. BTW this is the actual gate he walked through just before he was shot and killed.
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by cledry » 9 Apr 2016 11:05
We sometimes do our own welding but mostly we contract it out. We also don't have the capability to weld aluminum. Whatever the cost to us for the welding we pass that along to the customer on our invoice with no price markup.
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by RumballSolutions » 9 Apr 2016 17:18
Welding Aluminium is close to a black art in my opinion. I've taught myself to MIG thin section Aluminium(Al wire and high flow argon) but would not trust my welds for anything substantial. It ain't pretty!
Sometimes it really is better to just subcontract out work. It's pretty cool to watch a skilled welder work too.
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