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Brinks Cylinder

Want to learn how master keyed systems work? not sure what a Grand Master or a change key are? Want to share a new MK system you came up with? How do different manufacturers pin up their locks? It's 10pm, do you know where your wafers are?

Brinks Cylinder

Postby Sinifar » 9 Apr 2016 9:20

Another running the railroad story.

This has been called a "B B Binks" cylinder or a Brinks cylinder - I have heard both and they refer to this - a cylinder in which one key can only turn one way. Either to lock or unlock a lock. It can not go both ways - although the "master" can go both ways.

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On the right is the cylinder in question. It is made into a Schlage rim cylinder - I could have used anything, but this is my demo unit. The key on the left only turn left, the key on the right only turns right. the one in the middle goes both ways. How is this possible?

It is in the internal reworking of the lock. What you need to do is to file a pocket .060 deep at one point and drop the key 2 numbers at that point. For example - On the left turning key, the last cut on the master is 4, and the left turning key is 6. This gives you the ledge to keep the key from turning the other way. I could post the thing out of the Corbin service manual, but I won't. Know the cut or shelf only goes half way - that is from the center to the direction you want it to go. Normally one end of the plug gets the left, and the other end gets the right. this gives us both to use.

Where did this come from? Detention hardware. Folger Adams, Southern Steel and Western Wire all have this feature available for detention hardware. this is an extension of that application. For those who need to know LTR (long term residents) in the system do not have detention hardware on the door, they have normal hollow metal hardware, usually mortise locks and the resident has a key for their own unit. The key only turns to let them in, not throw the deadbolt. the deadbolt is thrown either by the electrical panel at the control point or by the detention officer using the master to throw it. Which means that the resident key is a Brinks key - and thus this came about.

Where this has an application is in stores who want to lock up at night, but not let the person locking up back in. So if you have a high value business like liquor or a "C" store and you want to lock up and the owner does not do it, he needs to know that the place is secure. So the night man can only lock up and not unlock the door. If there is a loss either the night man did not lock up properly, or .... The owner has a master which can both lock and unlock the door, just like the detention hardware.

The other key? Well that is another story, and maybe later --

Pix from our web page ..

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Re: Brinks Cylinder

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Apr 2016 9:42

Thanks for the background on where this originated.

Schuyler Towne did a thread here in 2006 about this, here' s video he made about it, with the knowledge he had about locks at the time while he was still learning. (he calls the plug a bible by accident, a forgivable offense =)



the old thread is here but the pics are no longer loading, if I find them on my old computer I'll reupload them
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Now I want to make one of these cylinders too just for giggles.

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Re: Brinks Cylinder

Postby billdeserthills » 9 Apr 2016 13:51

I made one for a client who wanted the maid key to unlock the knob to let herself in, but to only lock the deadbolt,
after she was done cleaning up & let herself out. The new owners had no use for it, of course
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Re: Brinks Cylinder

Postby LocksportSouth » 9 Apr 2016 17:58

Squelchtone wrote:-snip-

Now I want to make one of these cylinders too just for giggles.

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Me too actually :). This is really cool and looks like a fun project.
I'm trying to get my head around how you'd make a key that opened in both directions - would you file off both parts of the bitting? Or would that make a key that won't turn at all? (due to there being two "ledges", one on each side, holding the key upright). Or would you leave the key un-modified? I guess that makes more sense but I'd worry that after a full rotation, or rotate back and forth, the driver would catch on the edge of the key pin?
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Re: Brinks Cylinder

Postby MatrixBlackRock » 10 Apr 2016 8:04

Sinifar wrote:The other key? Well that is another story, and maybe later --

Sinifar


The other one looks like a blockout blade which would be used to disable a lock.

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Re: Brinks Cylinder

Postby Sinifar » 10 Apr 2016 9:29

Okay, before you go experimenting and try to make this work, here is the dope from the Corbin Cylinder manual.

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Dremel makes this go faster, but if you want to you can go and file the thing by hand. REMEMBER - it has to be exactly .060 + - .005 to work.

Good Luck ..

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Re: Brinks Cylinder

Postby jeffmoss26 » 10 Apr 2016 19:32

Thanks for sharing!!
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Re: Brinks Cylinder

Postby dll932 » 11 Apr 2017 14:41

LocksportSouth wrote:
Squelchtone wrote:-snip-

Now I want to make one of these cylinders too just for giggles.

Squelchtone



Me too actually :). This is really cool and looks like a fun project.
I'm trying to get my head around how you'd make a key that opened in both directions - would you file off both parts of the bitting? Or would that make a key that won't turn at all? (due to there being two "ledges", one on each side, holding the key upright). Or would you leave the key un-modified? I guess that makes more sense but I'd worry that after a full rotation, or rotate back and forth, the driver would catch on the edge of the key pin?

I made one with one key that turns either way, one that turns CW and one that turns CCW.
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