Vintage Pepsi Machine Ace II Help

[CGLee65]

Hello everyone, I reciently got several vintage pepsi machines at an auction and they all have the Ace II Tubular lock on them. I have tried all my tubular pickes and no go. the closest is my 7.8 but it is super tight. could someone pm me some info on these? I would be very greatfull. a couple of them still have bottles of pepsi in them and I would like to get them out with out destroying them and this way I can decode the locks to make some keys for them.

[mjwhit]

What picks are you using? Never heard of anyone having size problems with Ace II.

You can always manufacture a tensioning tool and spp them. A small alan key with the short end grinded square to fit in the slot will do it. It will probably take awhile as you will have to pick it several times to get the door open, and it wont help with the impressioning if you dont have a tool that fits. But you will get it open eventually.

Ive never done it but they should be bump-able as well, that should be fun.

[billdeserthills]

These locks aren't really worth a lot of trouble, as they simply pop out of the handle & into the trash.
However the first correct thing you can try would be getting a pick that does actually fit, buying the chinese set doesn't
guarantee they will fit in american-made locks...

[kwoswalt99-]

Ive never done it but they should be bump-able as well, that should be fun.

They are, but you would have to bump it 7 times to get a full rotation.

[mjwhit]

They are, but you would have to bump it 7 times to get a full rotation.

Gotta be easier than spp-ing it 7 times

[Mighty]

These locks aren't really worth a lot of trouble, as they simply pop out of the handle & into the trash.
However the first correct thing you can try would be getting a pick that does actually fit, buying the chinese set doesn't
guarantee they will fit in american-made locks...

I can confirm that the Chinese sets are really poorly sized. I have a 7.8mm 7-pin tubular lock which I couldn't get any of the Goso picks to fit in.

The inner diameter of the key is definitely about 7.8mm:


This pick is clearly labelled as 7.8mm:


However, my calipers disagree:


It seems that they have labelled all the tubular picks up a size for some reason, with the largest '7.8mm' actually being about 7.5mm. They couldn't have been measuring the outer diameter, so I'm not sure how they arrived at that number.

The higher quality (though considerably more expensive) Southord 7-pin pick, was actually 7.8mm, and was able to open the lock in about 20 seconds:

[GWiens2001]

Thank you for the updated information. Nice to get more info and to see what worked.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

These locks aren't really worth a lot of trouble, as they simply pop out of the handle & into the trash.
However the first correct thing you can try would be getting a pick that does actually fit, buying the chinese set doesn't
guarantee they will fit in american-made locks...

I can confirm that the Chinese sets are really poorly sized. I have a 7.8mm 7-pin tubular lock which I couldn't get any of the Goso picks to fit in.

The inner diameter of the key is definitely about 7.8mm:


This pick is clearly labelled as 7.8mm:


However, my calipers disagree:


It seems that they have labelled all the tubular picks up a size for some reason, with the largest '7.8mm' actually being about 7.5mm. They couldn't have been measuring the outer diameter, so I'm not sure how they arrived at that number.

The higher quality (though considerably more expensive) Southord 7-pin pick, was actually 7.8mm, and was able to open the lock in about 20 seconds:

There is your answer,
Simply get yourself a 7.8 mm drill bit and fix your pick

[realone414]

I have the goso tubular lock pick set that comes with 7.0, 7.5 & 7.8mm and it works on all of them. I think what happened is that your pick labeled 7.8 is a mislabeled 7.5mm. They work on 999 of all tubular locks except ace 2.