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What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby femurat » 18 Jun 2016 1:35

C locked wrote:And especially if any work is done to the safe lock
Like the fence being drilled as it looks like the fence used in this lock has been
The silversolder looks like a good indication that it was repaired.
(Did you do this gordon? Or did you get it like that?)


Almost all of my fences are silver soldered. I thought it was the way they make them. :shock:
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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 18 Jun 2016 7:34

femurat wrote:
C locked wrote:And especially if any work is done to the safe lock
Like the fence being drilled as it looks like the fence used in this lock has been
The silversolder looks like a good indication that it was repaired.
(Did you do this gordon? Or did you get it like that?)


Almost all of my fences are silver soldered. I thought it was the way they make them. :shock:


They are made that way. Only a few manufacturers make the fence and lever as a single piece since it requires a larger piece of solid metal to do so. More waste material in manufacturing.

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby Vaultdoor101 » 25 Jun 2016 6:41

They are made that way. Only a few manufacturers make the fence and lever as a single piece since it requires a larger piece of solid metal to do so. More waste material in manufacturing.


Yeah they cast those parts actually. The lever and fence of my Kromer locks for my door are made out of one piece.
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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 Jun 2016 7:24

Vaultdoor101 wrote:
They are made that way. Only a few manufacturers make the fence and lever as a single piece since it requires a larger piece of solid metal to do so. More waste material in manufacturing.


Yeah they cast those parts actually. The lever and fence of my Kromer locks for my door are made out of one piece.


Kromer makes some excellent locks!

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby Vaultdoor101 » 25 Jun 2016 10:21

Well yeah, I really like my locks :) But dont you think that Mosler or Diebold actually do also cast their levers and fences out of one piece?
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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 Jun 2016 10:55

Probably so. Just was not thinking so well. :oops:

:D

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 25 Jun 2016 16:39

Back in the "day", all of the manufacturers cast them in one piece. I didn't know S&G started making them differently until I saw Gordon's post.
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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby Vaultdoor101 » 25 Jun 2016 16:51

Well maybe in those times the manufacturers really thought about high security instead of just gaining money? The inner parts of my Kromer locks have traces from hand crafting (file, sandpaper, etc.) and the parts are polished. That to me is quality. Just sayin...
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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 Jun 2016 17:25

Vaultdoor101 wrote:Well maybe in those times the manufacturers really thought about high security instead of just gaining money? The inner parts of my Kromer locks have traces from hand crafting (file, sandpaper, etc.) and the parts are polished. That to me is quality. Just sayin...


I agree completely, Vaultdoor. Back when they really cared about the job they were doing, and took pride in quality and artistry.

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby Vaultdoor101 » 26 Jun 2016 14:23

If you are interested - here I show the locks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVVRCUaI-g

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 26 Jun 2016 14:32

Am going to go check out the locks soon. Thanks for posting them. :)

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby averagejoe » 27 Jun 2016 17:15

Vaultdoor101 wrote:If you are interested - here I show the locks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVVRCUaI-g

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Interesting, I have 2 Kromer locks, 3 wheel and 4 wheel offset versions and mine have springs on the bolt work as well to assist in opening and closing the bolt or keeping it open/closed.

Here is a small album of pictures of one of them if you are interested. http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Riyame/library/Safe%20locks/Kromer%204%20wheel%20offset
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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby Vaultdoor101 » 28 Jun 2016 2:44

@averagejoe:

Wow, that is nice! You even have one of those backplates for the lock. That is great, i have to built those for my vault door, because otherwise the locks dont fit in there. Your pictures give me a nice insight for doing this :) Thank you :)
And are your kromer locks currently in use? I mean are they used in a door of yours?

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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby averagejoe » 28 Jun 2016 23:19

No, they are just sitting in a box right now until I make up a display mount for them.

Kromer is the only one I have seen that has an actual "plate" to make an offset drive, every other one I have seen is an extra piece that matches the lock itself.
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Re: What Is Inside an S&G 6730 Safe Lock?

Postby safecracker33 » 29 Jun 2016 15:56

Chubb safes used to do a kit to convert their standard large brass 4 wheel kcl, to an indirect kit, effectively two plates with three gears between them that took the drive from the standard position in the lock, to outside the lockcase, obviously to prevent spindle punches or attacks and prevent explosives being introduced down the spindle hole into the lock. This could also be fitted with a glass plate on certain strongroom doors.
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