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Altering SFIC?

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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 26 Jun 2016 19:45

Well hopefully you have more luck than I do with picking it. Heh. Let us know how it goes!
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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 5 Jul 2016 13:28

Well, bosnianbill is a pretty cool dude. He sent me this email letting me know he wasn't having luck either. I don't feel as bad now - then again he's much better at this picking business than I am these days.

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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 18 Jul 2016 18:40

Send it to FarmerFreak now. :)
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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby FarmerFreak » 18 Jul 2016 20:17

kwoswalt99- wrote:Send it to FarmerFreak now. :)
NO
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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 18 Jul 2016 20:48

FarmerFreak wrote:
kwoswalt99- wrote:Send it to FarmerFreak now. :)
NO


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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby FarmerFreak » 18 Jul 2016 22:33

Some things to think about here.

Is it hard to pick because of the modifications?
Is it hard to pick because of the bitting?
Is it hard to pick because of the keyway?

Obviously it is hard to pick because of the keyway and the bitting. So the real question is. Did the modifications really make it hard to pick?? Probably, but if you really want to know. It has to be set up on a wide open keyway with a semi trivial bitting.

If Tyler already tested it with an easy bitting, wide open keyway, and determined it to be evil. Then followed through by making it even more evil. Then, well, that's just evil. :twisted:

PS. SFIC's have never really been my thing. Not that I can't do them, but it's probably fair to say that I can pick Medeco locks with a greater consistency than SFIC's
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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 19 Jul 2016 8:29

FarmerFreak wrote:Is it hard to pick because of the modifications?


I did sand the control sleeve to about 1500 grit. It was smooooooooth. I didn't sand the plug itself and the burring did make it feel a bit tight.

Is it hard to pick because of the bitting?


Maybe. I didn't do that to be a pain, however, those bittings placed the pins as close each modified chamber/shear line as possible. The hope was that very little movement would have resulted in a set. Or so I thought.

Is it hard to pick because of the keyway?


Yo no se, amigo. I was able to maneuver around fairly well with my Peterson hooks. The thing is, I never got more than 2 stacks to set - he might have had many more set which is why he had trouble with the keyway.

Obviously it is hard to pick because of the keyway and the bitting. So the real question is. Did the modifications really make it hard to pick?? Probably, but if you really want to know. It has to be set up on a wide open keyway with a semi trivial bitting.


Eh, I don't mind changing it into something like an "F" keyway (that you can drive a bus through as JK once described the M3 keyway) but the bitting/pinning is very much related to the modification of the chambers.

If Tyler already tested it with an easy bitting, wide open keyway, and determined it to be evil. Then followed through by making it even more evil. Then, well, that's just evil. :twisted:


The first core I modified (that's pictured in this thread) is an F keyway BEST. I did pin it up like the one I sent him but I only played with it for a few minutes - I just wanted to make sure it would function before I sacrificed a $20 core.

Tell you what I'll do, I'll send him two "F" cores:

(1) Modified, random bitting
(1) Modified, same bitting as Cormax
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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby FarmerFreak » 19 Jul 2016 9:32

Tyler J. Thomas wrote:Tell you what I'll do, I'll send him two "F" cores:

(1) Modified, random bitting
(1) Modified, same bitting as Cormax


Tell Bill that this is all my fault, and that I'm sorry because he's had a few difficult ones lately, but only a little bit sorry. :twisted:
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Re: Altering SFIC?

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 19 Jul 2016 9:39

FarmerFreak wrote:
Tyler J. Thomas wrote:Tell you what I'll do, I'll send him two "F" cores:

(1) Modified, random bitting
(1) Modified, same bitting as Cormax


Tell Bill that this is all my fault, and that I'm sorry because he's had a few difficult ones lately, but only a little bit sorry. :twisted:


So I've seen! Good job.
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