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Postby MrB » 16 Nov 2004 13:30

Hey, cute, from that picture I can see exactly how the lock works. Worth way more than a thousand words, that is.
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Postby attila_8_7_8_7 » 16 Nov 2004 15:37

here is a pick of the inside best I could do and I will try to get more later
here it the address http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gabefairc ... ?.dir=ab43
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 17 Nov 2004 17:57

attila_8_7_8_7 wrote:here is a pick of the inside best I could do and I will try to get more later
here it the address http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gabefairc ... ?.dir=ab43


still have not drilled that hole have you?

probably a cheezy spring loaded latch

all you gotta do is push it bac

is that an actual safe or just 18ga steel sheet?
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Postby 32768 » 17 Nov 2004 18:32

You mean drill a hole in the frame next to the latch to try to push the bolt in? I dunno if that's going to do it- they say there's a bolt on the hinge side as well. I guess it could still be spring-loaded. It's probably worth a try anyway. I'm coming at this from a hobbiest point of view. I understand how the lock works, but I don't know much yet about how the lock is connected to the bolts that hold the door shut. I think that linkage is the best place to attack this cabinet. I'd hoped from what attila_8_7_8_7 wrote earlier that there wasn't a back cover over the locking mechanism, but the photo shows that everything's closed up. Do you think the hole in the photo is for the change key? If so, that's a possible way to go.

attila_8_7_8_7, when you say you can see the wheel moving when you turn the dial, what do you mean? The brass circle in your photo?
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 17 Nov 2004 19:58

32768 wrote:You mean drill a hole in the frame next to the latch to try to push the bolt in? I dunno if that's going to do it- they say there's a bolt on the hinge side as well. I guess it could still be spring-loaded. It's probably worth a try anyway. I'm coming at this from a hobbiest point of view. I understand how the lock works, but I don't know much yet about how the lock is connected to the bolts that hold the door shut. I think that linkage is the best place to attack this cabinet. I'd hoped from what attila_8_7_8_7 wrote earlier that there wasn't a back cover over the locking mechanism, but the photo shows that everything's closed up. Do you think the hole in the photo is for the change key? If so, that's a possible way to go.

attila_8_7_8_7, when you say you can see the wheel moving when you turn the dial, what do you mean? The brass circle in your photo?


where is the change mark on the dial ?

i missed that bolt on the hinge side post

given that info it prolly isn't a spring loaded latch catching on the frame. (assuming that is actually a bolt on the hinge side)

If someone paid me to open that cabinet without completely destroying it
I would drill a 3/8 hole 1/8 " due east from the dial because i am now assuming it is mounted to the right.

i would drill through the door and into the front of the pack until i could see inside,

if i did not see the nut that fastens the bolt to the rake i would go another 1/8 and so on until i found it.

drill the nut and scratch back the bolt

open it take the pack off

screw 1/4 20 self tapping into the 3/8 holes and then grind them off

repaint it

reinstall pack
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Postby 32768 » 17 Nov 2004 21:25

That sounds entirely reasonable.

Do you think there's a way to do it from the back? <cough>
I'm just thinking that it's easier to rivet a patch onto the back of the cabinet than to repaint the front. It may not be possible to remove the back cover from the door while it's closed though.
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Postby MrB » 17 Nov 2004 21:29

Since there's already a hole in the back of the cabinet and the wheel pack seems to be visible (?), it should be possible to read the combination off the lock by peeking through the hole while someone operates the dial from the front? I'm thinking left a bit...bit more...bit more...stop! Now right a bit, bit more...

You get the idea.
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Postby franko452000 » 20 Nov 2004 4:07

of the four fence types, looks like a spring fence to me !..
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Postby franko452000 » 20 Nov 2004 4:25

taking the hinges off was ( for not ). you have 2 or 4 bolts extending from the door.
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Postby franko452000 » 20 Nov 2004 4:43

am in study on this locks, how might i send a pic. to this site ?.
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Postby franko452000 » 20 Nov 2004 5:03

push it back !. that pic. is a spring fence, all wheels right to open that lock!!!. get your graph out, and start taking readings!. and someone called the spring- fence a cezzy lock..lol
try to manipulate it open.. my advise to the man with that lock-out is to call a locksmith to drill it open !. then study the lock..
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