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Strange Tubular lock

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Strange Tubular lock

Postby jamesallen » 1 Oct 2016 22:12

Hi all!

I am having some trouble with the tubular lock in the picture!

I have tubular lock picks, nothing fancy, the 7mm 7.5mm & 7.8mm but this lock appears to be around a 7.7mm lock? If thats possible, the 7.8mm very nearly fits but not quite.

Any help would be appreciated!

The lock is unlocked in the picture.

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Thanks!
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Re: Strange Tubular lock

Postby mseifert » 1 Oct 2016 22:53

Just a quick word of advice ... you are going to have a hard time get info when the VERY first post on this forum involve opening a lock accompanied by a close up picture ...

So my question is .. Does the cabinet/lock belong to you ..
When I finally leave this world.. Will someone please tell my wife what I have REALLY spent on locks ...
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Re: Strange Tubular lock

Postby billdeserthills » 2 Oct 2016 18:29

Sounds like you invested in some cheap, junky chinese tubular lock picking tools--Now you know why the legit lock pick tool makers can charge as much as they do

Btw, since as you pointed out, 'the lock is unlocked' what kind of help are you looking for?
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Re: Strange Tubular lock

Postby HT4 » 3 Oct 2016 11:33

There doesn't appear to be anything particularly unusual about this lock. Multiple release points is pretty common (is that what you meant by "strange"? More to the point, you are learning that tubular impressioning tools are very limiting. Even if you have one that fits, they don't work on anything but the cheapest tubular locks. This lock may be a good opportunity to invest in a tubular tension tool and learn a bit more about tubular SPPing.
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Re: Strange Tubular lock

Postby sisk » 4 Oct 2016 19:00

I've got one of those. I don't use tubular picks but i found it to be not significantly more difficult than any other tubular lock. In fact it's the easiest one i own. To be fair though the rest of my tubular locks are a model i was told was pretty good.
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Re: Strange Tubular lock

Postby huxleypig » 11 Oct 2016 21:53

HT4 wrote:There doesn't appear to be anything particularly unusual about this lock. Multiple release points is pretty common (is that what you meant by "strange"? More to the point, you are learning that tubular impressioning tools are very limiting. Even if you have one that fits, they don't work on anything but the cheapest tubular locks. This lock may be a good opportunity to invest in a tubular tension tool and learn a bit more about tubular SPPing.


The common tubular pick can be used in a variety of ways. The self-impressioning aspect is reliant on several factors, including; the technique employed, the amount of tension from the locking collar, the exact tool used, and the lock itself.

The higher end tubular locks have specific defeats in them solely to defeat this type of tool (so the ACE II or the Gematic). However, this tool can still be used to SPP the lock. In practicality, if I can't get the lock to self-impression then I will employ a mixture of self-impressioning and then using the tool to SPP what is left. It may require a few modification to the off-the-shelf tool to make life a little easier but it can be done without messing about with frankentooling at all. :)

Then, when the lock is picked, you can use the tool once again in order to take a very good, precise impression of the lock by doing so when the lock is between pin stacks. Lock everything down and you will not need to continually pick the lock over and over again just to turn it. :wink:
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