2 in 1 pick

[pinky]

yup, have you got a thumb turn or not ? if not treat as you would a walsall bs, is it gloss black, highly polished chrome bolt, chrome curtain and h/p running across the top of the keyway like era.

[acl]

No thumb turn but all the rest sounds right.CWP?

[pinky]

rb and sv picks struggle with them, but with a bit of manipulating the belcher pick cracks them.

first time i drilled one on the right i had a nasty time, no matter what i used i could not cut through that bloody bolt, but their is a godsend on the right , the bolt has a square cut out through the bolt, the stump is wedged in this, open the case in front of this cut out and just punch out the stump, it falls out, you can rewedge this in on a warrant and lock will work fine.

its a cheap lock, but is a swine to pick and drill on right.

sks sell them as walsall, about £8 + the dreaded, as an add on Abus use walsall as one of their bs locks, in shiney red, chrome curtain and bolt etc, same lock but in red.

[acl]

Cant you drill and pick up the levers?Not seen the red one but im sure it wont be long thanks

[pinky]

you could but quicker to punch stump on right.

[pinky]

to answer the original question on this thread, no matter what 2 in 1 pick you use, you will have to adjust to suit the lock, the rb is designed to fit the 3 lever union keyway, it needs adapting for many other lock types, this requires you to file the legs.

dont lose your wonder of this pick, its the dogs , its the same tool for 3 and 5 lever locks, and 7 , 9 , 10 and 14 lever safe locks, but unless you want to pay £300 a pick ready cut for each lock type, you would need at least 12, then you buy the humble rb pick and file legs to suit.

you say you dont expect to pay good money and have to adapt the pick, well unless you buy a pre cut pick at £300 + each for each lock type then thats tough, welcome to the imperfect world of locksmithing.

i will agree, if was led to believe you would be a fully qualified door opener after a few days then you was mugged, if you believed you would be a fully qualified locksmith, then thats an insult to the name, how can you become a locksmith in a lifetime let alone a few days.

all training courses can only teach you 1 thing, methods , thats it, after that , how far you go depends on your own dedication to practice and study, your investment in tools and your own business accumen, and your willingness to learn.
anyone who emails me and asks about the trade, i tell them straight, without a minimum £5k to invest and hours, months and years of continuous practice forget it, i tell it as i see it, i pull no punches and probably put a few off, but better this than have them think ive ripped them off.
sorry unless you pay big, theres no magic pre cut tools, unless you dedicate to practice , they wont open, and unless you continuouasly pay out and learn you will be left behind.

not having a go, but this is how it is, use the forum, it works wonders, but contribute too, one cant happen without the other.

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Cheers pinkie. When your new to any trade and the guy at the front of the class has been doing it a while and has all the patter, its very easy to be taking in by them and belive every word. im under no illusion im a bonefied locksmith but glad to see there are people like you willing to help others. after they have been conned. thanks.