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Trying to understand sfic...

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Re: Trying to understand sfic...

Postby MatrixBlackRock » 8 Nov 2016 8:29

hatrabbit wrote:As I understand it, the order of the pins in a 4 pin sfic A2 stack are: bottom pin, master pin, build-up pin, and top pin. My question is, if I cut a key that puts the master pins at the shear line in all chambers across the lock, will that likely be a master key for that system? Sounds logical to me, but I'm still a beginner with these locks.

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Here's a article that might help.

http://www.matrixblackrock.com/Assets/BDC.pdf

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Re: Trying to understand sfic...

Postby MatrixBlackRock » 8 Nov 2016 8:33

tpark wrote:
mseifert wrote:If you don't have the decoding tool, you might be able to get the caps off with a small drill and a small screwdriver (drill a hole in the cap, place the screwdriver in the hole, then gently pry the cap out) and then use a paper clip to push the stack out. I've never tried to install caps without a capping tool, but it may be possible.


Just turn the core upside down and using a small steel rod just punch the pins, spring and cap out, that is how it is designed to be de-cored.

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Re: Trying to understand sfic...

Postby tpark » 8 Nov 2016 9:59

MatrixBlackRock wrote:
tpark wrote:
mseifert wrote:If you don't have the decoding tool, you might be able to get the caps off with a small drill and a small screwdriver (drill a hole in the cap, place the screwdriver in the hole, then gently pry the cap out) and then use a paper clip to push the stack out. I've never tried to install caps without a capping tool, but it may be possible.


Just turn the core upside down and using a small steel rod just punch the pins, spring and cap out, that is how it is designed to be de-cored.

Wayne


For sure that is the fastest and easiest way to get the pins out. A hobbyist might not want to purchase a decoder block. Also punching the pins out destroys the springs, so they're gonna have to be replaced after doing this.

Here's a catalog entry for the A1 version of the tools for the interested. I think I paid around 85 bucks for the decoder block, but if you're cheap and sort of handy, you could make your own.

Here's the icore tool page from an old A1 catalog for the curious.

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Re: Trying to understand sfic...

Postby MatrixBlackRock » 8 Nov 2016 10:36

tpark wrote:For sure that is the fastest and easiest way to get the pins out. A hobbyist might not want to purchase a decoder block. Also punching the pins out destroys the springs, so they're gonna have to be replaced after doing this.

Here's a catalog entry for the A1 version of the tools for the interested. I think I paid around 85 bucks for the decoder block, but if you're cheap and sort of handy, you could make your own.

Here's the icore tool page from an old A1 catalog for the curious.


This is by far the easiest tool to use for that job.

http://www.clksupplies.com/products/int ... core-annex

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Re: Trying to understand sfic...

Postby tpark » 8 Nov 2016 22:58

I really like the annex too - I think the construction of this tool is very good. I followed the warning to use a plastic or hide hammer, and mine has lasted for years.
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Re: Trying to understand sfic...

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 18 Dec 2016 14:39

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Re: Trying to understand sfic...

Postby jeffmoss26 » 18 Dec 2016 16:05

saw it on linkedin first - another great writeup Tyler!
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