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by mseifert » 26 Aug 2014 11:38
Still seems like it would be easier and faster to just file one down ..
When I finally leave this world.. Will someone please tell my wife what I have REALLY spent on locks ...
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by GWiens2001 » 26 Aug 2014 13:13
mseifert wrote:Still seems like it would be easier and faster to just file one down ..
That only works if you can get a key or blank. Gordon
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by Tygart » 26 Aug 2014 13:44
GWiens2001 wrote:mseifert wrote:Still seems like it would be easier and faster to just file one down ..
That only works if you can get a key or blank. Gordon
Should be easy, at some hardware stores they have the key blanks with the designs on them, they are usually out front, just grab one and go to the self checkout.
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by GWiens2001 » 26 Aug 2014 14:41
Just checked with Home Depot and Ace Hardware, and they were fresh out of blanks for Evva, TrioVing and Banham. They even say they don't ever carry Kaba Xpert blanks. What now?  Gordon
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by mseifert » 26 Aug 2014 16:22
GWiens2001 wrote:Just checked with Home Depot and Ace Hardware, and they were fresh out of blanks for Evva, TrioVing and Banham. They even say they don't ever carry Kaba Xpert blanks. What now?  Gordon
Ok you made your point .. I didn't consider the fancy locks..
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by bjornnrojb » 29 Aug 2014 22:47
In my experience bumping doesn't work so well on locks with sidebars, it only seems to work on locks with regular pins, and Schlage Everest with the one finger pin. Can you guys get a Primus or some other lock with a sidebar to bump?
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by KPick » 31 Aug 2014 21:21
that is cool. u know I was just wondering if this could be done some time ago, and you have confirmed my worry. I guess it's possible. thanks for sharing.
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by Tygart » 31 Aug 2014 21:34
That also means that you can cut any key you want, not just bump keys.
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by loogums » 26 Sep 2014 21:53
Tygart wrote:That also means that you can cut any key you want, not just bump keys.
That's true. I think much of the controversy surrounding 3D printer key cutting is not just in creating bump keys, but in bypassing the key control aspect of the lock industry. Regardless of how well controlled the distribution of a certain key blank is, with several pictures, people can now recreate keys.
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by MrAnybody » 27 Sep 2014 5:40
dll932 wrote:http://www.wired.com/2014/08/3d-printed-bump-keys/
Of course someone with a milling machine and the requisite skills could make a blank as well.
decoder gave a presentation on these 3D printed keys at LockCon last week, so I thought you'd like to see a close up of the key I got from him.  The quality is extremely good, and he used shapeways.com to make them. Of course, they won't stand up to the punishment that steel bump keys could take, but they're certainly durable. In fact, in the tests we did, they worked better than steel keys. We were unsure why exactly, but some of the guys were bouncing around the idea that it travelled faster in the keyway since it's lighter, or because of some slight expansion as it was struck.
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by Slayer85 » 7 Jun 2016 6:19
What are the costs of printing them? I suspect they are fairly low right?
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by matthewd » 2 Feb 2017 18:04
to be fair i dont think that shapeways keep is your typical 3d printer
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by Squelchtone » 2 Feb 2017 18:47
matthewd wrote:to be fair i dont think that shapeways keep is your typical 3d printer
Bro youre replying to a thread from 2014, and also posted something for sale without having 30 posts. Please dont necro old ass posts in order to build up post count, we notice that sort of thing. Squelchtone Forum Administrator
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by dll932 » 17 Mar 2017 14:52
MrAnybody wrote:dll932 wrote:http://www.wired.com/2014/08/3d-printed-bump-keys/
Of course someone with a milling machine and the requisite skills could make a blank as well.
decoder gave a presentation on these 3D printed keys at LockCon last week, so I thought you'd like to see a close up of the key I got from him. The quality is extremely good, and he used shapeways.com to make them. Of course, they won't stand up to the punishment that steel bump keys could take, but they're certainly durable. In fact, in the tests we did, they worked better than steel keys. We were unsure why exactly, but some of the guys were bouncing around the idea that it travelled faster in the keyway since it's lighter, or because of some slight expansion as it was struck.
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