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by G-lock » 5 Feb 2017 10:48
Im kinda new to picking but i did manage to get into a kawneer with barrel spools, & serrated pins yesterday & after 4 hours i finally got into a kasp 19070xd with some highs & lows in the bidding. It had 1 lightly serrated pin and 5 spools in it. After getting it open i put a keso 2000s core in it. Other than that ive been working on my sparrows reload kit with the different keys & various pin configurations. These were the 1st locks with security pins in them that i have been able to pick so im a little pumped up. 
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by Razor2016 » 5 Feb 2017 15:26
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by GWiens2001 » 6 Feb 2017 15:06
Eazy123 wrote:What a day...all six pins picked!!! A couple of months ago my local locksmith (who services and sells Medecos) told me not to even bother, and that in his 30 years of locksmithing he's never been able to pick one. Well, I did it!    Granted, I believe this is a classic Medeco (which I'm guessing is an easier one compared to the newer models), but I have my S&G 833 and m3 locks to start on now...  I'm so happy!!!
Have found the classic Medeco locks harder to pick than BiAxial. The sharper edge on the BiAxial key pins are easier to catch and rotate than the more gently sloped classic pins. Gordon
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by Eazy123 » 6 Feb 2017 22:15
GWiens2001 wrote:Eazy123 wrote:What a day...all six pins picked!!! A couple of months ago my local locksmith (who services and sells Medecos) told me not to even bother, and that in his 30 years of locksmithing he's never been able to pick one. Well, I did it!    Granted, I believe this is a classic Medeco (which I'm guessing is an easier one compared to the newer models), but I have my S&G 833 and m3 locks to start on now...  I'm so happy!!!
Have found the classic Medeco locks harder to pick than BiAxial. The sharper edge on the BiAxial key pins are easier to catch and rotate than the more gently sloped classic pins. Gordon
Really? I'm finding the opposite. In fact my m3 with a single pin inside is proving a pain to turn.
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by femurat » 7 Feb 2017 2:41
Eazy123 wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:Have found the classic Medeco locks harder to pick than BiAxial. The sharper edge on the BiAxial key pins are easier to catch and rotate than the more gently sloped classic pins.
Gordon
Really? I'm finding the opposite. In fact my m3 with a single pin inside is proving a pain to turn.
I agree with Gordon. It may depend on the pick you use and on the technique. Cheers 
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by RedE » 7 Feb 2017 9:17
GWiens2001 wrote:Eazy123 wrote:What a day...all six pins picked!!! A couple of months ago my local locksmith (who services and sells Medecos) told me not to even bother, and that in his 30 years of locksmithing he's never been able to pick one. Well, I did it!    Granted, I believe this is a classic Medeco (which I'm guessing is an easier one compared to the newer models), but I have my S&G 833 and m3 locks to start on now...  I'm so happy!!!
Have found the classic Medeco locks harder to pick than BiAxial. The sharper edge on the BiAxial key pins are easier to catch and rotate than the more gently sloped classic pins. Gordon
Did you try to pick it counterclockwise beforehand? I've never even attempted a clockwise pick.
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by Eazy123 » 7 Feb 2017 10:01
femurat wrote:Eazy123 wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:Have found the classic Medeco locks harder to pick than BiAxial. The sharper edge on the BiAxial key pins are easier to catch and rotate than the more gently sloped classic pins.
Gordon
Really? I'm finding the opposite. In fact my m3 with a single pin inside is proving a pain to turn.
I agree with Gordon. It may depend on the pick you use and on the technique. Cheers 
I use my Peterson gem for almost all my locks. My deforest diamond is my backup. I usually do the "come hither" move from behind to turn the pins.
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by G-lock » 7 Feb 2017 15:42
 got these opened today.
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by Squelchtone » 7 Feb 2017 16:08
G-lock wrote: got these opened today.
nice work! How did you find the Stanley to pick? and how do you feel about the quality of the lock? Also, any security pins and is it 5 or 6 pins? Thanks, Squelchtone
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by Eazy123 » 7 Feb 2017 16:24
G-lock wrote: got these opened today.
That Stanley gives me the flux, lol. Constantly dropping pins, much like the Abus Titalium I'm also working on. Can't get either open yet.
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by Eazy123 » 7 Feb 2017 23:25
Took the m3 apart to see if I could figure out where I was going wrong - there's an extra "pin" at the bottom of the keyway that must be pushed in after all pins are set correctly, otherwise the sidebar won't engage fully. I'm sure it's common knowledge to those familiar with Medecos but it was new to me. So I got one pin down now, lol 
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by G-lock » 8 Feb 2017 0:17
Squelchtone wrote:G-lock wrote: got these opened today.
nice work! How did you find the Stanley to pick? and how do you feel about the quality of the lock? Also, any security pins and is it 5 or 6 pins? Thanks, Squelchtone
 this is whats in the stanley. I havent been picking long but to me it was a easy pick ( less than 10 min) i think the bidding on the key had a little to do with it though, im going to rekey it later & try it again. As for the lock its a solid heavy little lock & for the price its hard to beat. I paid less than $30 for a pair of them new. The most challenging pick of this bunch was the American 5200 only 5 pins but the top & bottom are all serrated.
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by Squelchtone » 8 Feb 2017 10:07
Thanks I'll have to pick up one of those Stanleys. You know they own S&G which makes the big military 833 and 951 padlocks. When that Stanley came out, I wondered if they borrowed any design features from the military locks or if the Stanley is it's own thing. Thanks for the break down pics and and write up!
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by OrMeanGene » 8 Feb 2017 17:24
Bouncing around in this pile of locks. Bilock is only one without a key. I havent opened a few yet, but getting closer. Couple medecos, primus, highly paracentric restricted keyway on lockwood.  Mean Gene
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by G-lock » 8 Feb 2017 17:40
OrMeanGene wrote:Bouncing around in this pile of locks. Bilock is only one without a key. I havent opened a few yet, but getting closer. Couple medecos, primus, highly paracentric restricted keyway on lockwood.  Mean Gene
Nice bunch of locks, i hear those bilocks are very hard to pick.
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