Handcuff problem. S+W m100's

by **Jow** » 29 Oct 2004 21:41

i have these handcuffs. they are smith and wesson m 100's. the problem is that they seem jammed or locked. by comparing them with aworking pair all i can deduce is that a little piece of metal in the small hole (see diagram) is and or has been pushed to one side.
one cuff is open and the other locked. the open one cannot side through the mechanism as if the latch is jammed. same problem with the locked one.
i also no longe have a key for them. ive tried to pick them but again the latch moves to a point and then gets stuck...

any ideas??

joe

by **Chucklz** » 29 Oct 2004 22:16

I'm not sure, but isn't this the "deadlocking" system on these cuffs? If you need a key, just eBay it.

by **silent** » 30 Oct 2004 8:19

I know it wouldnt be truly unlocked but have you tried shimming the serrated part of the arm that closes. Take a hairpin and push it parallel with the serration, Not sure if it would work on the model you have though.......

by **Jow** » 2 Nov 2004 0:38

i worked it out... i made a shim from a feeler gauge set i had (highly reccomend it for anyone making shims) and got the deadlock to un latch and then it was simple to pick the lock.

by **NikonGuy** » 22 Nov 2004 16:07

You are looking at the double-locking feature on the handcuffs. It is used to, as you'd guess, double-lock the cuff once locked around the wrist. By doing this you will prevent the cuff from tightening around the wrist of a detainee.

To operate the double lock:
Close the cuff around the wrist to the proper circumference
Insert the post end of the cuff key into the slot you outlined
Move the key so that the tab is no longer visible

To unlock:
Insert the key and turn to unlock the double-lock
Turn the key entirely in the opposite direction until the cuff opens

by **walrus** » 27 Nov 2004 12:06

handcufs are easy to shim and all use the same key, except for the high end security cuffs. you should carry a key on you at all times, you never know when it will come in handy. there is a key holder that goes around your belt and looks like another belt loop almost.

by **NikonGuy** » 29 Nov 2004 10:37

walrus wrote:handcufs are easy to shim and all use the same key, except for the high end security cuffs. you should carry a key on you at all times, you never know when it will come in handy. there is a key holder that goes around your belt and looks like another belt loop almost.

Bummer, those high security ones. I had the misfortune of stating that handcuff were relatively easy to get out of on a bet. A buddy of mine in an MP company said, "Really?" He snapped a pair of cuffs on me that looked like all the others at first glance. These suckers were on there but good. They had a tubular lock on them, which apparently are prone to the pen pick trick, but penless and behind the back was impossible for me. Not that the guys weren't laughing their backsides off at my Houdini dance.

Here's a link to a fine set of Peerless. Beautiful!
http://www.securityandsafetysupply.com/ ... ess-2.html

by **walrus** » 29 Nov 2004 16:56

really? Im a USMC MP stationed in Lexington, Kentucky. well, I guess Im not "officially" until I finish my MOS school, but I am a 5811. what branch is/was he in?

by **Pickey** » 29 Nov 2004 17:07

walrus wrote:handcufs are easy to shim and all use the same key, except for the high end security cuffs. you should carry a key on you at all times, you never know when it will come in handy. there is a key holder that goes around your belt and looks like another belt loop almost.

Lol, i don't see the point in carrying cuff keys with you at all times unles your some petty theif who knows he's gonna get caught. And if you do get caught and you pick the cuffs in the back of a police car, that would be pointless because most cop cars back seat doors do not open from inside, they have to be opened from outside.
Also, not all models of cuffs use the same keys (excluding high security).

by **Sp00k** » 30 Nov 2004 7:36

my dads in the police force and its been in my family for years so i have grown up around police tools, if you take the tip of the key they should be a pin on the end. look for a little hole press it in and takes the safe lock of push the kuffs in a little then unlock the kuffs unlocks simple but if the thin metals missin from the key then your stuffed....

by **NikonGuy** » 30 Nov 2004 13:41

walrus wrote:really? Im a USMC MP stationed in Lexington, Kentucky. well, I guess Im not "officially" until I finish my MOS school, but I am a 5811. what branch is/was he in?

I was in the Army. AFAIK, the cuffs he put on me were not standard issue. He also showed off a pair of restraints used in mental wards, the leather strap kind.

by **hung82000** » 6 Dec 2004 9:32

Pickey wrote:
Lol, i don't see the point in carrying cuff keys with you at all times unles your some petty theif who knows he's gonna get caught.

Or unless you're someone like me who works security and also happens to carry the cuffs that go with the key. :wink:

by **raimundo** » 12 Dec 2004 16:11

Didn't he show you the ones with the fur trim?

by **reboot_zero** » 12 Dec 2004 17:44

I was actually thinking about purchasing this particular pair of handcuffs. Are they a good pair? Mainly for escape tricks.

by **JackNco** » 13 Dec 2006 9:23

reboot_zero wrote:I was actually thinking about purchasing this particular pair of handcuffs. Are they a good pair? Mainly for escape tricks.

Ya ive got that set, only cuffs ive ever used and i picked them fine. had 2 file down the hair pini had but with the right pin they are easily picked. nice n chunky as well. the sound very well made.

John

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