why did schlage do this?

[Jremington401]

Has anyone seen schlage screw up like this? Normally their keys are highs and lows this is 778777

[Shackle Jackal]

they wanted you to make a bump key with it, so you can open all of their locks !

[Jacob Morgan]

Did Schlage make it, or was it someone's lazy idea of a master key?

[GWiens2001]

On the other side of the key, is the bitting stamped on the key bow?

FYI - the bitting on a Schlage is read from bow to tip, so the bitting is 777877.

Gordon

[RedE]

I've never seen anything quite like that, but I have seen a stair stepping key that was 55679.

Also, there's been many times where I've come across a nine cut closest to the bow in their residential stuff. Usually when this happens, I rekey the locks for durability reasons. And lately I've noticed that the B60s use brass blanks instead of nickel silver, which makes keys are even weaker than they used to be.

[jimu57]

Could be faked. Take a 7 depth and space key and cut one position deeper.

[Jremington401]

Gweins2001 your absolutely right my bad...it's not stamped I used a decoder card on it...but me and a local locksmith were laughing about it because of how easy it is to open plus it's a fsic just silly on schlages part

[Jacob Morgan]

If it is not stamped, was it cut like that at the factory or did someone in the field cut the key?

Some lazy locksmiths set the master to all very deep cuts so they have plenty of room for change keys--wonder if this could be an example of that? Have heard of 9-9-9-9-9-9 as a master key before in some poorly designed systems.

[Jacob Morgan]

Gweins2001 your absolutely right my bad...it's not stamped I used a decoder card on it...but me and a local locksmith were laughing about it because of how easy it is to open plus it's a fsic just silly on schlages part

Not trying to be picky, but would LFIC, for Large Format Interchangeable Core, be the more common terminology?

[RedE]

Gweins2001 your absolutely right my bad...it's not stamped I used a decoder card on it...but me and a local locksmith were laughing about it because of how easy it is to open plus it's a fsic just silly on schlages part

Not trying to be picky, but would LFIC, for Large Format Interchangeable Core, be the more common terminology?

I guess you could say that. FSIC is a term that AFIAK, only Schlage uses to describe their cores. Though personally I prefer to use the term "removable core" instead of LFIC or FSIC because the brands do not interchange with each other.

[Eazy123]

Could turn it upside down and cut your steak with it at dinner tonight?

[Jremington401]

Wasn't master keyed and I'm guessing it was factory was just put in maybe 2 weeks ago.

[peterwn]

If it is not stamped, was it cut like that at the factory or did someone in the field cut the key?

Some lazy locksmiths set the master to all very deep cuts so they have plenty of room for change keys--wonder if this could be an example of that? Have heard of 9-9-9-9-9-9 as a master key before in some poorly designed systems.

Masterkeying this way is very easy - just remove the plug of a new keyed cylinder, drop in wafers, put plug back and the masterkeyed cylinder is 'go'. If the change key has a '9' cut all the better - it saves a wafer. If the change key has a '8', a bit more tricky, but no worries - just file the plug. Never mind lack of pick resistance, chance of unintended cross keying, plug spoilt for next guy who has to work on it etc.

[billdeserthills]

If it is not stamped, was it cut like that at the factory or did someone in the field cut the key?

Some lazy locksmiths set the master to all very deep cuts so they have plenty of room for change keys--wonder if this could be an example of that? Have heard of 9-9-9-9-9-9 as a master key before in some poorly designed systems.

Masterkeying this way is very easy - just remove the plug of a new keyed cylinder, drop in wafers, put plug back and the masterkeyed cylinder is 'go'. If the change key has a '9' cut all the better - it saves a wafer. If the change key has a '8', a bit more tricky, but no worries - just file the plug. Never mind lack of pick resistance, chance of unintended cross keying, plug spoilt for next guy who has to work on it etc.

Instead of filing the plug you can use a kwikset #1 bottom pin as a top pin over that chamber
the bevel will allow a little more slop and you won't need to destroy the client's hardware