Sawtooth rake

[gumptrick]

I was watching some picking videos on youtube yesterday and I came across one in which the picker used a "sawtooth rake" to rake open a dimple lock. The pick resembled the standard L-rake/"City Rake", but it had evenly spaced and equally shaped "saw teeth" on it. Imagine a rake that looks like a bump key. I can't find the video again and I forgot to bookmark it so I had no luck going back to study it again.

Anyone know of such a thing or where I might find one? I am able to make my own but I figured I'd research what was out there first.

[Ralph_Goodman]

Do the teeth have a sharper angle or point than the normal L-rake?

The reason I ask is that I have seen very cheap lock pick sets where their L-rake does not the proper depths between teeth. Wondering if it might just have been a poorly made L-rake.

Was there a point being made about the rake within the video, or was it just something you noticed?

[gumptrick]

To be honest I wasn't paying 100% attention to the video; I had it going on my 2nd monitor while I was doing some work on the first. I think (but I am not sure) that the rake was intended for use on pin tumbler locks, but in this case the picker used the side of the teeth to rake a dimple lock.

The picker on the video referred to it as a "sawtooth rake". The teeth were all of identical size, shape, and spacing--just like a bump key. The serrated section also appeared to be much longer than the serrated portion of a normal L-rake. I don't think it was a poorly made L-rake, I think it was meant to be a uniform sawtooth design.

I did find a cheap Chinese pick set which included something similar, but I am not a fan of cheap Chinese picks.

[gumptrick]

I found a pic that shows something similar. The pick in question resembled the 3rd-to-last pic in this photo. However, there were more teeth and they were a steeper ("pointier") angle.

[gumptrick]

Dumb luck has struck!

I was replying to another post on the forum about Godrej locks and found a youtube video by lockpickinglawyer showing him opening one:
[423] Godrej 70mm "DuraLock" 9-Pin Disc Padlock Picked

....that was not the same video I saw before, but it does show the same tool.

[rlcoone]

I got this in a set of mostly junk picks from Klom before I knew what I was doing, it looks like what you are describing.

[gumptrick]

Yeah, it looks like a cheap import for sure.

I think I'm going to make a few of my own. I've got some .030" stainless feeler gauge material on the way.

[rlcoone]

I haven't found it terribly useful but every now and then you stick it in a lock, give it a wiggle and the lock pops open.

[gumptrick]

I'm sure you're right that it's not going to be a main go-to tool. Surely something like a proper L-rake or those rakes based on a cycloid design would work much better on a typical lock but I can see this being potentially useful.

Plus, I'll admit it: I love tool sets. And the nice thing about lock picking is that the tools are very cheap compared to building a set of quality wrenches, sockets, and other mechanic's/engineering tools! And the way I see it is that making your own tools is a common part of the lock hobby.

[rlcoone]

I have a few old door sets and a few padlocks, at some point I've tried it on all of them to see what happens. It opened enough of them easily that I didn't put it back in the case where the rest of them wound up. I looked online trying to find another one of better quality but came up empty. I'm not to the point of making my own tools yet, just practice, practice, practice.

[Jabs D]

I am new and I am probably wrong, but I think you get a few of them in GOSO 24 piece set (the one with the big case ). I have had some luck with them but as rlcoone points out sometime you just stick it in and wiggle it about a bit and the lock will pop open but other times its as good as useless.

(sorry if this is completely useless, I just want to try and help how I can and get involved)

-Jabs-

[gumptrick]

Thanks. I've found a few Chinese kits that have them, including the Goso you mentioned.
I haven't found any of them from a "quality maker" so I think I'm going to go ahead and make my own. I don't feel like buying a big set of picks just to get one or two oddballs that I want.

I agree it's probably not very useful for pin tumblers; my plan is to use it to rake dimple locks. I think I'll make a few different ones with different spacing between the teeth and see what works the best.

[rlcoone]

SouthOrd Pin Tumbler Lock Jigglers - SDJ-13 third from the bottom on the right looks like a version of the same thing, except it looks like smaller spacing between the teeth.

[GWiens2001]

SouthOrd Pin Tumbler Lock Jigglers - SDJ-13 third from the bottom on the right looks like a version of the same thing, except it looks like smaller spacing between the teeth.

But keep in mind that those pin tumbler jigglers are HUGE.

Gordon

[Silverado]

I follow a guy on Instagram who has pics of his homemade picks up all the time. It looks like he makes some that are similar to what you want. If you are interested, shoot me a PM for a link. He may even be a member here for all I know.

Obligatory; I am not the person who runs that website, makes those picks, posts those pictures and I am in no way affiliated or being paid to advertise for the above person.