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Glued Lock?

Postby JasonS » 13 Aug 2017 8:56

Hello,

I have a problem that I hope you guys can help me with.

I live here in London and at the moment motorcycle crime is up 600% because the police will not chance criminals on motorbikes as the may get hurt while being chased.

After the first attempt at steeling my bike, I have property locked it to a ground anchor with an Almax chain and a squire lock. They after i did this the theses put a substance in the lock that stopped it the key from going in, so I had to cut off my £100 lock and buy a new one. After two days, they have done it again. How can I clear the Keyway so I don't have to buy a new lock.?

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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby mseifert » 13 Aug 2017 9:48

Never understood why people do this kind of thing . you will need to soak the lock, for a little while, in acetone or nail polish remover. Run the key in and out several times, soak it some more .. this will eventually open it but not sure how long the lock will continue to work ..
When I finally leave this world.. Will someone please tell my wife what I have REALLY spent on locks ...
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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Aug 2017 10:53

Sometimes the crooks will glue the lock in hopes that you will leave it there overnight so they will have time to cut the lock and steal the bike.

You might try getting white lithium grease spray and putting a small amount in the lock before they glue it. That may keep the glue from getting in enough to lock the pins. Then again it may make the lock tempermental with a key, too.

You might get some teflon based lubricant such as Remoil (A gun lubricant oil with teflon, made by Remington) or possibly TriFlow or Houdini lock lubricants that also have teflon (PTFE). There is one company that makes protectors for lock cylinders in doors (see Drumm Gemini Shield) and they use something like that to prevent glue attacks for their protectors.

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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby Razor2016 » 14 Aug 2017 4:45

Depending on the substance used I have had some success with just heating the lock up, Cyanoacrylates tend to break down when heated allowing the lock to be opened. Placing the locks (keyway down) on absorbent paper in an oven removes the majority of the glue.

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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby jimu57 » 14 Aug 2017 10:46

Put a high security lock on the chain. Then put a steel box around that lock with 2 common locks holding it on. Then put a block of modeling clay on the box with a fake digital timer on it and wires stuck in the clay. I wouldnt mess with it I saw that mess.
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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby demux » 14 Aug 2017 10:51

jimu57 wrote:Put a high security lock on the chain. Then put a steel box around that lock with 2 common locks holding it on. Then put a block of modeling clay on the box with a fake digital timer on it and wires stuck in the clay. I wouldnt mess with it I saw that mess.


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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby jimu57 » 14 Aug 2017 10:55

Modeling clay is illegal?
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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby demux » 14 Aug 2017 11:16

In the current world atmosphere where everybody is scared of their own shadow, and you can paralyze an entire city with a placard, battery, and some LED lights, probably. And if not, it certainly would be after anyone tried anything like that. :shock:

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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 14 Aug 2017 11:37

Try taking a fake bomb anywhere and see how long it takes for a SWAT team shows up to explain the finer points of the law to you.

Calling in a fake bomb threat will get you arrested, let alone having a fake bomb.

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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby demux » 14 Aug 2017 11:45

For similar effect but with less chance of police involvement, you could try taking a Baby Ruth bar, microwaving it for a few seconds, mashing it up, and spreading it on the outside of your lock. Plus you have a built-in snack with you at all times. :twisted:

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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby Lelandwelds » 14 Aug 2017 19:11

I used to work for a 3M distributer. The MSDS for three different removers listed acetone, nitromethane, and tetrahydrofuran. Call up an industrial supplier.

I would spray an aerisol wax for rust prevention inside your lock.
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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby Lelandwelds » 14 Aug 2017 20:29

I would try pre treating your lock with Sprayon waxy film lube, HD Corrosion X , or lecithin mold release. It will be a PITA to carry around adhesive solvent on a daily basis.

I would pretreat and sabotage some cheap padlocks now to shorten the learning curve. Sounds like the UK is even worse than the East and West coast. shame.
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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby billdeserthills » 14 Aug 2017 20:43

jimu57 wrote:Modeling clay is illegal?


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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby Lelandwelds » 15 Aug 2017 15:39

That looks like vinyl floor mastic or Liquid nails. There are commercial products to remove flooring glue. Construction adhesives are usually rubber based. Try mineral spirits,acetone, hexane, or naptha to remove. Youtube has videos on removal from floors.

I had some of both of these that cured about a year ago. They were softened enough to remove with rags and pipe cleaners. I dont have any fresh product to try on a Master padlock. I used acetone and white gas.

I once froze and chipped off something similar. I used liquid propane (or carbon dioxide?).

That is unfortunate. I am wishing the person responsible consume a waste product and expire.
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Re: Glued Lock?

Postby gumptrick » 15 Aug 2017 15:57

Years ago I was into model building & used a lot of CA glue aka "super glue". The tricks we used to remove it were to either soak it in acetone or R/C model "glow fuel", which contains nitomethane. The cheap glow fuel with 0% nitromethane was not effective.
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