Rim v Euro cylinder

[EvoRed]

Same manufacturer but just wondered why an Era 5 pin rim cylinder has no security pins while an Era 6 pin Euro cylinder has four spool drivers...? Haven't looked in an Era 5 pin Euro yet but would presume this has three spools...

I know a Euro cylinder operates a multi locking mechanism or sashlock but, quite often, a rim cylinder is the only form of security on a front door so you would expect this to be of a similar standard to help prevent picking. Maybe they think it's a waste of time applying anti pick measures to a rim cylinder as, if it's the only lock on a door, a burglar will more than likely get their credit card out.

Just curious...

[oldlock]

While a rim cylinder may be the only lock on a door - it should always be supported by a good deadlock - and all the security is provided by the deadlock - the nightlatch is to stop sparrows flying around your hall.

The euro on the other hand will (in the majority) of cases be the only lock on the door & as such a better quality cylinder should be used.

Paul

[EvoRed]

Point taken that a Euro is usually the last, and often only, line of defence on your door whereas a rim should be supported by a deadlock but you see quite a number of doors with rim cylinder latches only (come on, we're all sad and look at everyones door and every lock we encounter on our everyday strolls!).

I was called out to a lockout a couple of days ago where the front door had two rim cylinder latches only! So there's an idea, support your very low security latch...with another one!

I had a Euro 6 pin the other day with no security pins so they obviously don't all have them so I'm just curious why the same manufacturer who thinks the rim cylinder isn't worthy of one security pin then loads its Euro with them...

[jason]

Maybe after making their rims they had all these spools left over and someone thought......

[Al]

Maybe they buy them in from two different manufacturers

[oldlock]

The rims are (or rather used to be) made by CISA - no idea abou the euros ??

Paul

[Al]

I'm sure the latest Rim Cyls are not Cisa as there are massive tolerances. I think there have been two different styles of Euro, the earlier ones were really cheap and nasty.