New user, and I have a bitting question...

[Oicu812]

it just needs to be hardened enough to stop most everyone but the advanced guys on this site. Who I doubt will be dropping by my place.

I know this is probably meant as a joke, but I assure you none of us are hardened criminals or cat burglars. There are more locksmiths, feds, cops, hobby pickers, and lock collectors here than bad guys.

I was not trying to imply that. Which is why I said that none of you would be stopping by. It was intended to be a tongue in cheek reference. *<;o)

[Deja vu]

I know this is probably meant as a joke, but I assure you none of us are hardened criminals or cat burglars. There are more locksmiths, feds, cops, hobby pickers, and lock collectors here than bad guys.

Its an unfortunate fact of life that people hear that you or I know how to lock pick and they automatically assume that either we are lock smiths or police or criminals.

I have worked in the correctional setting when I was younger and as far as I am aware none of them knew any thing about lock picking other than what they learned from Hollywood (inaccurate).

Why would you got to all that trouble to learn to pick when a rock and a crowbar work better and are much faster?

[Raymond]

When I suggested removing the outside tail pieces I was referring only to the double cylinder deadbolts. You can also do this on the single cylinder deadbolts by removing the tail piece from the outer cylinder, put the plug retainer back on without the tail piece, and then insert the tail piece through the bolt into the inside thumb turn before putting the screws back in. Temporary, but works.

[Oicu812]

When I suggested removing the outside tail pieces I was referring only to the double cylinder deadbolts. You can also do this on the single cylinder deadbolts by removing the tail piece from the outer cylinder, put the plug retainer back on without the tail piece, and then insert the tail piece through the bolt into the inside thumb turn before putting the screws back in. Temporary, but works.

As of right now, that is the plan. I am going to repin all of the locks correctly, and then leave the tail piece off the outside facing core. That way, you can still use the knobs from the outside, but when it is time to lock up, it should be secure.

[jimu57]

sounds like it doesn't matter. Just repin the things to some arbitrary bitting. If someone wants to break in while you're gone, they will do it anyway.

[tjohn]

The exterior tailpiece of the KW deadbolt is the hollow one (female). If you are going to do this you will need to swap the interior tailpiece (which is the post-male) because it won't actuate the deadbolt with just the interior one.

[Oicu812]

The exterior tailpiece of the KW deadbolt is the hollow one (female). If you are going to do this you will need to swap the interior tailpiece (which is the post-male) because it won't actuate the deadbolt with just the interior one.

That was VERY good advice, this did the trick. The double cylinder deadbolts now function from inside the house only. Thank you.

[GWiens2001]

We appreciate the update that the information worked for you. Thank you.

Gordon

[Evan]

My question is this: Is there any functional reason why I should not pin these KW locks with a radical bitting? 71742 or something like that?

@Oicu812:

Yes. There is no OEM Kwikset #7 bottom pin. The #7 bitting depth is supposed to be used only when masterkeying Kwikset locks to increase the size of the keying system you can produce.

~~ Evan