Euro Cylinder Lock Position Adjustment

[perky416]

Hi guys.

Not a lockpicking question but as a member of the forum already i thought id ask this here.

Moved into a new house and in the process of fitting better euro cylinder locks in the upvc doors. I have noticed that the current locks are very poorly fitted. They tend to protrude one side of the door (usually the outer) and sit recessed on the other side of the door.

They appear to be the correct size locks they just arent centered correctly. I have tried slackening off the screw hole and adjusting them but as i tighten the screw the locks always end up in their original position.

I was wondering if there is a trick of the trade of adjusting the fitment/positioning to get them flush each side of the door. I have thought about getting the drill out and elongating the screw hole slightly.

All advice welcomed.
Lee

[GWiens2001]

Have you tried turning it around?

Gordon

[femurat]

The trick to getting them flush is having the right length. There's no way of adjusting their position with the screw.

Actually Gordon gave a pretty good advice. If the two sides are asymmetrical there's a good chance reversing it could make it fit better.

Good luck

[perky416]

Hi guys.
Yeah i did try turning them around however as they are symetrical the result is the same. I did consider asymetrical locks however these are out by milimeters. For example the one lock is recessed 1mm on the external side, only minor but enough that you can see a gap around the lock. If i go for the next size up in this example it will then be protruding 4mm on ghe external side which i didnt really want due to lock snapping.

As its only a small amount of wiggle room i need would i not be able to take the place off that the screw goes throgh, elongate the hole by 1mm and counter sink it so the screw sits flush? That way im hoping to get just enoigh movement to make it sot flush.

[GWiens2001]

Unfortunately, a lot of the screen doors/security doors sold here in the United States are rather poorly made. Do not think I have ever seen one with a properly fitting profile cylinder.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

You could buy a replacement cylinder with the right length, profile cylinders often have one side
longer than the other

[Raymond]

Is it possible to make a protective plate that will fit over the outside cylinder and, to appearances, lessen how much sticks out. The plate could be longer that the complete lock body and fasten with bolts passing through the door and nuts on the inside.

[GWiens2001]

Is it possible to make a protective plate that will fit over the outside cylinder and, to appearances, lessen how much sticks out. The plate could be longer that the complete lock body and fasten with bolts passing through the door and nuts on the inside.

Yes, and they are commercially made, too. Though harder to find inthw US.

Gordon

[Jacob Morgan]

Unfortunately, a lot of the screen doors/security doors sold here in the United States are rather poorly made. Do not think I have ever seen one with a properly fitting profile cylinder.
Gordon

No kidding about the poorly made part. Last Friday I had to work on the storm door (with a Euro cylinder) to my house. The lock assembly was by Larson. It had gotten to be so hard to open and close that it was unusable. The cylinder was fine but the lock assembly had just enough corrosion that the dead bolt did not want to slide back and forth in the stamped steel body like it should. It was plated with something but the plating had an oxide buildup on it. Wire brushed everything clean then put a thin layer of grease on the sliding parts and it works fine now, but it floors me that no more than 10 years in a salt-free, normal humidity, environment corrodes them up enough to make them useless. I know that grease might attract dirt, but it is not dusty here while corrosion killed it in 10 years. And yes, the cylinder sticks out a little too far on both sides.

[billdeserthills]

Unfortunately, a lot of the screen doors/security doors sold here in the United States are rather poorly made. Do not think I have ever seen one with a properly fitting profile cylinder.
Gordon

No kidding about the poorly made part. Last Friday I had to work on the storm door (with a Euro cylinder) to my house. The lock assembly was by Larson. It had gotten to be so hard to open and close that it was unusable. The cylinder was fine but the lock assembly had just enough corrosion that the dead bolt did not want to slide back and forth in the stamped steel body like it should. It was plated with something but the plating had an oxide buildup on it. Wire brushed everything clean then put a thin layer of grease on the sliding parts and it works fine now, but it floors me that no more than 10 years in a salt-free, normal humidity, environment corrodes them up enough to make them useless. I know that grease might attract dirt, but it is not dusty here while corrosion killed it in 10 years. And yes, the cylinder sticks out a little too far on both sides.

I see the same thing in Arizona, but possibly a bit worse, as the extreme heat causes the lubricant on the moving parts to melt off and there is a lot of dust blowing around that causes the insides to stick if enough time goes by. I have seen a few high security locks accumulate so much dust that the key won't open them until they are flushed out, dissembled, cleaned & put back