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by greengrowlocks » 1 Dec 2017 6:21
adi_picker wrote:So, a bit of a deviation I guess, I was going to do a couple more cramped keyway's in honour of keyway day, but I remembered I had been meaning to pick this one.. Ingersoll 10 Lever   I got 2 of these recently, and they are a proper chunk of lock. Unfortunately, they are both missing the keyway cover, but for the price I picked them up for, I have little to complain about! adi_picker
Incredible adi! I've always wanted to see someone pick one of those Ingersoll padlocks. Pretty awesome locks with or without the cover. I've been looking at similar ones for awhile but haven't found one in my budget. Happy to hear you got a good deal on your set.
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by GWiens2001 » 1 Dec 2017 7:35
Outstanding, adi! Both the TPP and the Ingersoll.
Does your Ingersoll still have the O-ring on the plug?
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by mudrat » 2 Dec 2017 1:48
Had a simple T handle cylinder lock on a garage door a while ago. No key and in locked position. So, pick it and turn 180 deg to unlock, then press the retaining wafer and pull the cylinder, right?
Not so simple. Cylinder would not pull. Loose enough, but refused to pull. Finally figured out to pick lock, turn only 90 deg, then press the retaining wafer and it popped right out.
The retaining wafer had a narrow tail that engaged the retaining groove when the wafer was pressed. Only in the 90 deg position would the tail fit a narrow slot and allow the cylinder to be pulled.
How do you normally pull a cylinder like this? At 90 deg, the regular key can not be removed to allow a change key or pick to be inserted.
Sorry, no photos.
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by greengrowlocks » 2 Dec 2017 11:50
After the 6000 I returned to the DP once again. The last few days I have been practicing just the sidebar, paying close attention not to overset any of the sliders. I was feeling pretty confident on picking the sidebar, so I stayed up late last night to work on the fully pinned lock. Finally this morning I got it picked! ASSA DP (6 pins, 10 sliders) 
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by adi_picker » 5 Dec 2017 0:37
EVVA DPI Dual Sidebar Variant Finally got my EVVA DPI picked! Was playing around with this one about a year ago, and had zero luck. Let my skills catch up for a bit and shes open! Took some photos of the innards if anyone wants to take a look. adi_picker
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by GWiens2001 » 5 Dec 2017 18:06
First time using the Mace picks. Abus padlock with the 888 keyway (that spells ABUS). Thanks to Squelchtone for the picks and lock and to Jeff for telling me the keyway number.   Gordon
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by Ralph_Goodman » 7 Dec 2017 12:38
GWiens2001 wrote:First time using the Mace picks. Abus padlock with the 888 keyway (that spells ABUS). Thanks to Squelchtone for the picks and lock and to Jeff for telling me the keyway number.  Gordon
How did you like the picks? Did you struggle to work with them?
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by GWiens2001 » 7 Dec 2017 15:05
Ralph_Goodman wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:First time using the Mace picks. Abus padlock with the 888 keyway (that spells ABUS). Thanks to Squelchtone for the picks and lock and to Jeff for telling me the keyway number.  Gordon
How did you like the picks? Did you struggle to work with them?
The hardest part was that when using them as a tensioner, part of the tool overhangs the keyway. Luckily the keyway was fairly open and the picks are fairly thin, so it worked out. The Mace picks are not for the heavy-handed picker. They will bend if you don’t have a light touch. Gordon
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by adi_picker » 18 Dec 2017 23:25
Zeiss Ikon Cruciform  Thanks a bunch to greengrow for this trade! adi_picker
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by globallockytoo » 19 Dec 2017 15:01
the hobby picking of locks is very interesting and thanks for posting all your successes.
My challenge to y'all is to install the locks to a door or if a padlock, to a chain or eyelet, to prove that picking in the field is as easy or pratical as picking on the bench or in a vice or when your hand is holding the lock.
I thnk that might prove significantly challenging to the hobbiest pickers.
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by GWiens2001 » 19 Dec 2017 16:43
globallockytoo wrote:the hobby picking of locks is very interesting and thanks for posting all your successes.
My challenge to y'all is to install the locks to a door or if a padlock, to a chain or eyelet, to prove that picking in the field is as easy or pratical as picking on the bench or in a vice or when your hand is holding the lock.
I thnk that might prove significantly challenging to the hobbiest pickers.
True. Padlocks I pick in my hand, since it is closer to real world. Gordon
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by Shackle Jackal » 20 Dec 2017 16:21
globallockytoo wrote:the hobby picking of locks is very interesting and thanks for posting all your successes.
My challenge to y'all is to install the locks to a door or if a padlock, to a chain or eyelet, to prove that picking in the field is as easy or pratical as picking on the bench or in a vice or when your hand is holding the lock.
I thnk that might prove significantly challenging to the hobbiest pickers.
I love that idea, I would also like to see people picking really dirty locks, corroded and left outside for extended periods of time, I have had more issues with picking dirty locks than locks that are threaded and full of security pins.
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by adi_picker » 20 Dec 2017 18:21
globallockytoo wrote:the hobby picking of locks is very interesting and thanks for posting all your successes.
My challenge to y'all is to install the locks to a door or if a padlock, to a chain or eyelet, to prove that picking in the field is as easy or pratical as picking on the bench or in a vice or when your hand is holding the lock.
I thnk that might prove significantly challenging to the hobbiest pickers.
Are you upset that I picked a couple more BiLocks globallocky?  You are correct, picking in the field is sometimes much more difficult, depending on the installation, and the cleanliness of the lock. The second can mostly be remedied with a bit of WD40, but the first poses challenges all of its own. I pick in the field for practice as much as possible, but as I'm not a locksmith, the opportunity does not present itself as much as I would like. Even when you have good intentions, people tend to not like sharing their locks with you for picking practice without a long term relationship or a locksmith licence. adi_picker
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by adi_picker » 21 Dec 2017 2:51
Is this what you are looking for?    adi_picker
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by femurat » 22 Dec 2017 9:04
 Last week I went to a local locksmith shop where I buy locks from time to time. I chatted a little with them and told them I pick locks. They told me there's a very secure lock that can't be picked, the Cisa TSP. Well, they were kind enough to let me borrow one for a week / ten days (without the keys obviously). I tried to pick it for four or five evenings, without good results. I got a deep false set but could never identify the missing pin to open it. Well, I was not picking the side pins because I thought they were passive. After realizing it, and after a long picking session on my couch while watching a movie, I finally got it open. You can imagine my excitement! I probably got it almost open the night before, without even realizing it. I was just missing the active side pins. I have to admit that this lock is one of the most difficult I've picked so far. The extremely paracentric keyway makes very difficult to insert a pick. I had to make a special half diamond with tapered sides and a super thin shaft just for this lock. And then I used an old and thick curve to pick the side pins. This morning I went back to the shop and all the five people working there went to see the lock open, and were very curios about the tools I used to open it. They congratulated me for opening it. I thanked them for the challenge. They made me more happy than may have realized. I got a big sense of accomplishment, like when I first opened a lock. Cheers 
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