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Victor safe assistance

Forgot how to dial the combination on that old safe? Think you got the right numbers but the handle is stuck? What safe should you buy? Ask your safe questions here!
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Re: Victor safe assistance

Postby 007Safecracker » 20 Jan 2018 12:55

did u do a wheel count?
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Re: Victor safe assistance

Postby Caretaker1059 » 23 Jan 2018 18:42

Greetings
I turned the wheel to the right several turns
I then turned back to the left slow while listening .
There are 3 wheels as near as I can tell.
Thanks
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Re: Victor safe assistance

Postby Caretaker1059 » 26 Feb 2018 11:17

Been a while since I have posted
Has anyone here heard of the Vibration method of opening a safe. Putting a vibrating sander on the dial and waiting for the light part of the wheels with the notches in them to come to the top.
Is this even worth trying? Has anyone tried this and if so did it work?
Thanks
Have Fun
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Re: Victor safe assistance

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Feb 2018 12:37

Caretaker1059 wrote:Been a while since I have posted
Has anyone here heard of the Vibration method of opening a safe. Putting a vibrating sander on the dial and waiting for the light part of the wheels with the notches in them to come to the top.
Is this even worth trying? Has anyone tried this and if so did it work?
Thanks
Have Fun
Tim


I heard somewhere or read somewhere once that there was a mysterious case of a safe mounted in a train car that would often be found unlocked with no explanation as to who dialed the combination and just left it there like that. Someone figured out that all the riding around on the rails and the constant vibration worked it's way up to the safe and due to the imbalance in weight the wheels eventually turned so the gate was facing 12 oclock and the more meaty part of the wheels facing down. At this point the fence could just drop in and the door be opened without dialing anything. *I'm hoping someone chimes in with any corrections to this story as I'm sure my memory is a little fuzzy.

I saw some photos once of an industrial vibrator, the kind used to remove air bubbles from concrete, being pressed against a safe door. With your safe and lock, if this would work, you'd have to elevate the left side of your safe onto a piece of plywood or something high enough like a 2x4 to make your drop in area be at 12 oclock. otherwise *if the hand sander even works, and I have my doubts* the wheels would align not over the correct drop in. This method was eventually countered by drilling holes in wheels and making them balanced. I'm not sure if your wheels are like that or if the holes in them are just for changing the combination.

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Re: Victor safe assistance

Postby bitbuster » 26 Feb 2018 13:13

Please don't let this happen to your safe. I asked owner if a locksmith drilled the 2 excessively large holes in the pristine door and the reply was "Yes".

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Re: Victor safe assistance

Postby MartinHewitt » 1 Mar 2018 18:27

I have heard this vibration story with ships where the vibration of the ship's engine has a long time to vibrate the lock open.
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Re: Victor safe assistance

Postby Caretaker1059 » 5 Mar 2018 10:24

Greetings all
Thanks for the info
I have heard the ship story as well. Train also makes sense. I would hazard a guess that this process takes alot of time and fairly signifigant
lower frequency vibration. More like the Jolts received on a train or ship. There is a fair amount of friction to overcome.
I will continue to listen and learn . I believe I have one number isolated around 48.
no worries I nor anyone else will be drilling any holes. :D
Thanks again
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