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by GWiens2001 » 21 Apr 2018 10:57
Got my first Lishi pick/decoder yesterday. Grabbed an ignition lock for a Honda Sidewinder lock (for which the specific pick is made), and after about 20 minutes figuring out using the tool and the feel, got it.   Key looks like this: (obvously the lock is not in use, so I don't mind posting the pic)  Once the 'feel' of the lock and tool was figured out, it is quite easy to use and rather quick. Much faster than using a half diamond and tweezer-type tension tool! Gordon
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by stratmando » 22 Apr 2018 10:30
GWiens2001 wrote:Got my first Lishi pick/decoder yesterday. Grabbed an ignition lock for a Honda Sidewinder lock (for which the specific pick is made), and after about 20 minutes figuring out using the tool and the feel, got it.   Key looks like this: (obvously the lock is not in use, so I don't mind posting the pic)  Once the 'feel' of the lock and tool was figured out, it is quite easy to use and rather quick. Much faster than using a half diamond and tweezer-type tension tool! Gordon
Cool Tools . A while Back was asking if anyone made a Kwikset, Schlage, or Master Lock Decoder Like Lishi, Except just need to decode after Picked Open. Only thing Better If they made a 2 in 1(Pick AND Decoder) I am sure someone here or Mr. Lishi could do it? I am still in the Thinking Process?
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by kilae » 22 Apr 2018 13:07
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Mess with the BEST, die like the REST! I search: All magnetic locks (Miwa Magnetic, MagLok, Mottura MC), Trioving locks, Xylok, S&G 951, ... I have: Swiss locks like Sea, Kaba and Keso, magnetic locks and some more 
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by billdeserthills » 22 Apr 2018 20:17
Stratmando that is a cool idea about a decoder pick tool for US locks
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by stratmando » 23 Apr 2018 7:51
billdeserthills wrote:Stratmando that is a cool idea about a decoder pick tool for US locks
One thing can be done is modify a set of Depth Keys, Take the ridge out between the spaces so they are straight across. Now with a picked lock, push the depth keys in, and first cut can be determined by which depth key makes it past the first pin, That is your first depth, then you could find out the rest Only if the cuts were Progressively Deeper?
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by billdeserthills » 23 Apr 2018 12:00
stratmando wrote:billdeserthills wrote:Stratmando that is a cool idea about a decoder pick tool for US locks
One thing can be done is modify a set of Depth Keys, Take the ridge out between the spaces so they are straight across. Now with a picked lock, push the depth keys in, and first cut can be determined by which depth key makes it past the first pin, That is your first depth, then you could find out the rest Only if the cuts were Progressively Deeper?
That I remember being an old 'tip or trick' I read about years ago-- it may only work on the first pin, depending on how large it is
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by adi_picker » 27 Apr 2018 3:00
Medeco's - Classic / Biaxial / Keymark  Sargent RIM Cylinder  USPS Rotary Padlock  Cruciform Locks on Telecom Goldphone Payphone   Lovely tight tolerances on these cruciforms made for a good pick, compared to these the First Gen BiLock on the later Bluephones is a sinch! adi_picker
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by GWiens2001 » 27 Apr 2018 9:00
Nice picking, Adi_picker. Your skills are really advancing. Keep it up! Looks like I need to send you some more pick fodder.  Gordon
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by adi_picker » 27 Apr 2018 21:47
Thanks GWiens, just takes time! Lockwood MT5+ VPIL  This is the Lockwood branded version of the MTL MT5+. Unlike their hobbled Twin variant, there is no difference between this and the 'real' MT5+. Although LW released it in Oz 5+ years ago, uptake has been very limited, so it is very rare to see one around. adi_picker
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by Eazy123 » 1 May 2018 13:52
I haven't checked in in quite a while, but I've been steadily acquiring and picking (got my first safe lock open a couple of months back as well). I must have a horseshoe in my you-know-what because somehow my "naughty lock" drawer is emptying out at a steady rate the last week and a half. Locks I've owned for over a year and have never been able to pick are suddenly opening. I gave up on dimple locks for a few months, only being able to pick one or two. Well yesterday I sat down and got both sides of a MTL 7x7, my Abus Marine AND my MTL Jr. pin-in-pin open  Once I got the hang of reverse tensioning on some of the pins that gave me lots of feedback and still wouldn't set, they weren't as difficult anymore. I think it was my best day for lockpicking ever and now I'm hooked on dimple locks! I've had a MT5+ sitting around and may get the stones to take a crack at it. What other dimple locks would you guys recommend? (I also have a KABA Gemini but that's above my skill level ATM - will make another attempt to pick that this weekend)   GWiens2001 wrote:Got my first Lishi pick/decoder yesterday. Grabbed an ignition lock for a Honda Sidewinder lock (for which the specific pick is made), and after about 20 minutes figuring out using the tool and the feel, got it.
Gordon
Nice - I got one last year for the Chevy locks I have and can only get one open. I'm having a hard time figuring out why - if the locks are too gunked up with grease or what...
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by GWiens2001 » 1 May 2018 20:20
Eazy123 wrote:I haven't checked in in quite a while, but I've been steadily acquiring and picking (got my first safe lock open a couple of months back as well). I must have a horseshoe in my you-know-what because somehow my "naughty lock" drawer is emptying out at a steady rate the last week and a half. Locks I've owned for over a year and have never been able to pick are suddenly opening. I gave up on dimple locks for a few months, only being able to pick one or two. Well yesterday I sat down and got both sides of a MTL 7x7, my Abus Marine AND my MTL Jr. pin-in-pin open  Once I got the hang of reverse tensioning on some of the pins that gave me lots of feedback and still wouldn't set, they weren't as difficult anymore. I think it was my best day for lockpicking ever and now I'm hooked on dimple locks! I've had a MT5+ sitting around and may get the stones to take a crack at it. What other dimple locks would you guys recommend? (I also have a KABA Gemini but that's above my skill level ATM - will make another attempt to pick that this weekend)   GWiens2001 wrote:Got my first Lishi pick/decoder yesterday. Grabbed an ignition lock for a Honda Sidewinder lock (for which the specific pick is made), and after about 20 minutes figuring out using the tool and the feel, got it.
Gordon
Nice - I got one last year for the Chevy locks I have and can only get one open. I'm having a hard time figuring out why - if the locks are too gunked up with grease or what...
Nice job with the dimples. Have you tried a Sargent Keso? You can get a used one from Security Snobs really cheap. My first guess on your difficulty picking the Chevy locks (can't go into details on the open forum with automotive locks) would be too much tension. However, having used only a Honda Sidewinder Lishi pick, can not say for certain. Gordon
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by Eazy123 » 1 May 2018 21:59
GWiens2001 wrote:Eazy123 wrote:I haven't checked in in quite a while, but I've been steadily acquiring and picking (got my first safe lock open a couple of months back as well). I must have a horseshoe in my you-know-what because somehow my "naughty lock" drawer is emptying out at a steady rate the last week and a half. Locks I've owned for over a year and have never been able to pick are suddenly opening. I gave up on dimple locks for a few months, only being able to pick one or two. Well yesterday I sat down and got both sides of a MTL 7x7, my Abus Marine AND my MTL Jr. pin-in-pin open  Once I got the hang of reverse tensioning on some of the pins that gave me lots of feedback and still wouldn't set, they weren't as difficult anymore. I think it was my best day for lockpicking ever and now I'm hooked on dimple locks! I've had a MT5+ sitting around and may get the stones to take a crack at it. What other dimple locks would you guys recommend? (I also have a KABA Gemini but that's above my skill level ATM - will make another attempt to pick that this weekend)   GWiens2001 wrote:Got my first Lishi pick/decoder yesterday. Grabbed an ignition lock for a Honda Sidewinder lock (for which the specific pick is made), and after about 20 minutes figuring out using the tool and the feel, got it.
Gordon
Nice - I got one last year for the Chevy locks I have and can only get one open. I'm having a hard time figuring out why - if the locks are too gunked up with grease or what...
Nice job with the dimples. Have you tried a Sargent Keso? You can get a used one from Security Snobs really cheap. My first guess on your difficulty picking the Chevy locks (can't go into details on the open forum with automotive locks) would be too much tension. However, having used only a Honda Sidewinder Lishi pick, can not say for certain. Gordon
I did get one on SS, forgot about that one (I believe it was your recommendation last year, maybe Squelch's) - same pin layout as the KABA gemini so I haven't been able to pick it yet. Maybe I'll take a crack at that. As far as the Lishii goes, I'll try with less tension, thanks!
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by greengrowlocks » 8 May 2018 3:32
I haven't had as much time to pick lately but I did get this guy open tonight. Now on to the SK6 Multiprofil. IKON SK6 
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by GWiens2001 » 8 May 2018 6:53
greengrowlocks wrote:I haven't had as much time to pick lately but I did get this guy open tonight. Now on to the SK6 Multiprofil.
Considering the great work on tool making you are doing, I think we can let it slide that you are only picking the IKON.  Great picking.  Gordon
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by jeffmoss26 » 8 May 2018 18:27
old Schlage A series, 5 pin E keyway cylinder, picked for a customer so it could be rekeyed. https://imgur.com/9y2IAPM
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