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What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

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What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby coldclimb » 10 May 2018 0:50

So I'm not much of a pro at picking, but I enjoy it as a hobbyist. In my job as a professional firefighter though it can come in handy sometimes on false alarms where we have no glaring reason to believe there is an emergency, but must gain access via whatever means are necessary to make sure before leaving a building. Usually when this is required, we simply break things, like doors and locks. A few days ago on a false alarm, rather than forcing the door with an axe and halligan, I whipped out my tools and picked the deadbolt with a bogota in about three seconds. Upon attempting to re-lock it, however, the tumbler didn't react as I expected, and then locked itself in a slightly off-center position. Thinking maybe I had somehow gotten a pin out of place, I disassembled the lock and promptly broke the whole thing because it's something I have never seen before. Long story short the damage has been resolved (still better than breaking the door) but I would love to get some education on what sort of lock this pile of garbage used to be, and learn what stopped me from re-locking it and how to recognize and avoid that situation in the future. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby stratmando » 10 May 2018 7:38

Looks like a Schlage SecureKey?
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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby Squelchtone » 10 May 2018 8:26

stratmando wrote:Looks like a Schlage SecureKey?


+1 http://lockwiki.com/index.php/Schlage_SecureKey


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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby billdeserthills » 10 May 2018 11:26

As said, this 'pile of garbage' was a Schlage Securekey lock, they were discontinued after Kwikset sued Schlage for stealing their 'smartkey'
design. Nicest thing I find about the Schlage securekey is that a regular Schlage cylinder (or most anything else) will easily fit in the housing
The little + sign above the keyhole is the giveaway for the Securekey cylinder
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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby coldclimb » 10 May 2018 17:59

That's the one! Thanks guys! Looks like when I picked it, I probably moved it to the reset position and then adjusted the keying and wasn't able to get it to go back into the normal key mode. Very interesting. I will be careful not o do that again! Nice that tgis particular lock has a distinguishing mark on the outside.
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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby stratmando » 10 May 2018 19:29

Couple things on Youtube, Search "Schlage SecureKey". They did Copy Kwikset, Having to have a change key made it a pain. Little tool used for Kwikset. Is Great when a home owner needs to change Keys Frequently.
You have all the parts, Bet you could put it together keyed to a Schlage Key you already have. Good Luck
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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby stratmando » 13 May 2018 8:03

I had reset one once and didn't work, Thought I was temporarily screwed, Then with the key pushed 1 pin short of all the way in, it turned and was able to reset correctly. was sure key was all the way in when setting. I wonder if sometimes when people fail on resetting correctly, if they just tried pushing in or out to different depths, if it would be back resettable?
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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby jeffmoss26 » 13 May 2018 19:16

the only useful part on that lock is the retaining clip. toss the rest!
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Re: What was this lock, and where do I learn more?

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 May 2018 22:48

jeffmoss26 wrote:the only useful part on that lock is the retaining clip. toss the rest!


I'd still like to acquire one for my collection. It may be problematic, but it is still a 3D puzzle to me. :D

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