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Master Keying Systems

Want to learn how master keyed systems work? not sure what a Grand Master or a change key are? Want to share a new MK system you came up with? How do different manufacturers pin up their locks? It's 10pm, do you know where your wafers are?

Re: Master Keying Systems

Postby Self-Taught 4731 » 18 Nov 2014 16:55

I appreciate all your help, and I have taken it all into consideration. However, due to the age of this thread, and considering this is slightly off-topic, I have created a new thread for this situation. I pretty much just copied and pasted my first post so some of the questions in it have already been answered, but if you would like to contribute to that conversation it is located at viewtopic.php?f=23&t=59728 . Thank you for the help you have already provided, and any future contributions to this new thread that you may provide!
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Re: Master Keying Systems

Postby Punkty24 » 25 Jun 2018 23:27

GordonAlexander wrote:I haven't read all the responses so forgive me if this has been brought up already.

A wouldn't suggest using ANY cut from the GMK in and sub or CK. Say 47562 is the master, choose something like 83744 for a sub. Then your CK's could progress the last three chambers(avoiding "562"). I think this method would be called a rotating constant. If you keep the "47562" and progress single chambers, your ck will look something like "47564, 47566, 47568...

This should be avoided. Change the first two chambers for each Sub and simply progress the last three, or four chambers. A change key should never have master bittings on it. If an observant crook noticed every key started with "47", he could simply make a master key from a change key with high cuts by impressioning or possibly doing the math. You can change the first two chambers and not have to worry about multiple master pins in each chamber.

Maybe this will help http://www.sopl.us/basic-masterkeying.html



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Re: Master Keying Systems

Postby AngryHatter » 26 Jun 2018 2:20

Considering he wrote that 3 1/2 years ago :shock: :lol:
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Re: Master Keying Systems

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Jun 2018 7:50

AngryHatter wrote:Considering he wrote that 3 1/2 years ago :shock: :lol:



the reply he quoted was actually from 2013 !! 5 years ago.. but guess what kids? we have a time machine, we can go back to before sopl asked for the login.. to the Way Back Machine!

click here and enable Flash Player in your browser to view the document: https://web.archive.org/web/20130510065 ... eying.html

the raw shockwave file is here: http://www.sopl.us/uploads/1/3/0/1/1301 ... keying.swf

enjoy,
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