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Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

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Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

Postby coderz » 4 Jul 2018 14:17

So I've got a set of black flag picks from Sparrows. They seem to work well, and they are able to push pins in this lock up. I cannot seem to pick this lock though no matter what I do. I have a zbar which fits for tension but it's extremely hard to get feedback etc. Does anyone have advice picking this lock?
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Re: Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

Postby AngryHatter » 4 Jul 2018 17:33

A little sideways , but how do you like the Sparrows picks?
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Re: Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

Postby coderz » 5 Jul 2018 6:07

AngryHatter wrote:A little sideways , but how do you like the Sparrows picks?


They seem like a great set for $40.00 and really the only set I'm aware of that require 0 sanding unless you wany expensive spooxe picks. I'm still having issues with this lock but I'm sure I'll get it. I sanded down an allen wrench to fit in the keyway side that doesn't have any active pins. I've seen other people pick this lock with more tension control. Thus far I've had very limited luck. It's hard for me to get feedback and it's hard to know if I'm hitting the back pins at all 4 5 and 6. 1 seems to bind and potentially 2 next and I can feel/hear the classic click when I push them up with insanely light tension in this case.
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Re: Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

Postby stratmando » 5 Jul 2018 9:17

Can't help with that particular lock, If you have a key, insert, then mark key with sharpie at face of lock, then place side by side with your pick and mark on pick how deep it needs to go to get the last pins.
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Re: Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

Postby mseifert » 5 Jul 2018 23:35

If this is your first Dimple lock, maybe start with something that has weaker tolerances.. Like one of the Chinese lock ..
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Re: Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

Postby coderz » 8 Jul 2018 23:27

mseifert wrote:If this is your first Dimple lock, maybe start with something that has weaker tolerances.. Like one of the Chinese lock ..


I've finally succeeded guys! I've been able to pick these a few times now using the Black Flag kit form sparrows, and I took an old allen wrench and I managed to file the end down so it fits perfectly into the right side of the lock away from the pins. VERY difficult pick. The hardest part is getting any feedback from all the spool pins. I'm a big believer like the TLPL is in HEAVY TENSION, but in this case you have to use light tension because you're pressing up in a rotating fashion against the lock which unlocks/turns clockwise.

This means you'll end up pressing the plug/core up thinking you're getting counter rotation and you're not. Boop! You press up the wrong pin and they all fall down. You need to get really good at pushing up the pin while not pushing on the core and feeling for that counter rotation. It is however doable lol just very difficult at first! I'm so glad I got this sucker open multiple times now though it feels amazing!

Your only other option is use heavier tension and keep pushing up pins (write them down on paper) which one give you no false set ever. Then you don't have to worry about counter rotation, but it's hard because you have to get the exact order of pins down one by one, but this is also doable. TLPL while he believes in using the heaviest tension possible for each stage of picking a lock (as I do), he talks about tension on these types of dimple locks.

In this case the heaviest tension possible for each stage of picking this lock goes from a feather to a gnats nose when getting feedback from a spool pin to push up during counter rotation. I hope this helps too!
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Re: Picking An Abus Marine 75IB 50 dimple lock

Postby OrMeanGene » 20 Jul 2018 20:45

If your using the small straight flag, you should be able to pick from the left side of keyway. That way you can pick counterclockwise while tensioning clockwise. Only way to get reliable feedback on those spool pins.

Congrats on getting open. Just thought that tip may help be more consistent.
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