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Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

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Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby MikeMcM » 10 Oct 2018 6:17

Our company is taking over a warehouse next to our current facility that has been vacant for a few years. The building has three doors that have Schlage Primus deadbolts installed, with no idea who did the installs to possibly get them re-keyed. So, we figure we'll remove them and replace with new locks. I can see no way to easily remove them, I can find no screws holding the two sides together after removing the decorative skirt and the keyway faceplates. How is this lock put together, am I going to have to drill it out? If so, what's the best way to do so? TIA for any assistance....
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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby Squelchtone » 10 Oct 2018 8:44

Could be 2 screws hidden behind a cylinder faceplate. Are the deadbolts keyed on inside and outside?


Is this a deadbolt like on a house, or is it a deabdolt with a Lever handle under it? Can you post a photo or two?

See if any of these manuals match your hardware:
B Series - Deadbolts
https://us.allegion.com/content/dam/all ... 111247.pdf

L Series - mortise Lever handle sets
https://us.allegion.com/content/dam/all ... 106500.pdf

A Series - Knobs
https://us.allegion.com/content/dam/all ... 106720.pdf


It could also be that your deadbolt hardware is made by another company and it simply has Schlage Primus cores installed, so these manuals may not help.
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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby MikeMcM » 10 Oct 2018 11:07

Squelchtone wrote:Could be 2 screws hidden behind a cylinder faceplate. Are the deadbolts keyed on inside and outside?

It could also be that your deadbolt hardware is made by another company and it simply has Schlage Primus cores installed, so these manuals may not help.


You hit the nail on the head, it appears to be someone else's hardware with a Primus core installed. Finally got it sorted after taking the door off the hinges, it has two threaded mortise cylinders, with the securing set screws accessible through the bolt plate. Once I backed those out I was able to unscrew the cylinders, though one was pretty well frozen and required a pipe wrench to get off. Couldn't find any manufacturer info on the hardware, though one of the threaded mortise castings had a patent number 4272974 on it. Patent was issued back in 1979, says that it's currently held by International Security Products and I can't find any info regarding who they are.

But, all's well that ends well and the bugger is off. Thanks for the prompt reply, This site looks like a great resource and bookmarked for future reference.
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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby Squelchtone » 10 Oct 2018 12:12

Hey, nicely done!

That's what's known as a Lori deadbolt (was made by Lori back in the 70's/80's, the Lori Kaba, now sold under Kaba Ilco, still get am new if you need some) http://www.ilco.us/products/replacement ... dbolt.html

Are these doors very thin compared to normal doors? That's where I have seen most of these installed in the past.

a drawing from the patent you found:
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a video of how to remove them for future visitors of this thread:


Thank you for following up and stop by any time.

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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby MikeMcM » 10 Oct 2018 12:51

Squelchtone wrote:Hey, nicely done!

Are these doors very thin compared to normal doors? That's where I have seen most of these installed in the past.

Squelchtone


The door is a cheap metal industrial door with a foam core, 1 3/4" thick. It's an old industrial complex of giant sheet metal buildings, the previous tenant had lots of expensive manufacturing equipment which probably explains the Primus keysets on the three warehouse doors. We're just going to be using the facility for storing packing materials and such, probably just replace them all with cheapo Grade 1 single cylinders for now. The facility will be alarmed and monitored with cameras, so I can't really see spending top dollar to protect cardboard tubes and pallets. Once we start using it for product storage, then we can revisit door security.
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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby stratmando » 10 Oct 2018 14:56

Squelchtone wrote:Hey, nicely done!

That's what's known as a Lori deadbolt (was made by Lori back in the 70's/80's, the Lori Kaba, now sold under Kaba Ilco, still get am new if you need some) http://www.ilco.us/products/replacement ... dbolt.html

Are these doors very thin compared to normal doors? That's where I have seen most of these installed in the past.

a drawing from the patent you found:
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a video of how to remove them for future visitors of this thread:


Thank you for following up and stop by any time.

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Mucho Interesante, MUCHO Interesante, think it may be vulnerable to a Pipe Wrench?
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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby Squelchtone » 10 Oct 2018 15:56

stratmando: the collar is free spinning, and is pretty shallow, as well as having a low angle to it.
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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby billdeserthills » 10 Oct 2018 18:46

Years ago I got to clean up the mess after a criminal broke into a business with one of these locks on it's steel door.
I had always thought these were a strong design, but after the mess the criminal made of it, I think a stronger design would have the
body (part # 12 & 13) actually a bit larger, so they would take up the inner circumference of the 2 1/8" mounting hole.

This design is also used by Omnia & the removal tool is a long 5/64 hex wrench
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Re: Removing Dual Cylinder Schlage Primus Deadbolt?

Postby stratmando » 11 Oct 2018 8:53

Squelchtone wrote:stratmando: the collar is free spinning, and is pretty shallow, as well as having a low angle to it.


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